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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:36pm
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Dead Ball Dunk - KU/OSU

WTH? Johnson for KU just dunked a dead ball. OSU player fouled him after a foul had already been called. Then Johnson hangs on the rim. SO many things wrong with this play! 13:00ish of the 2nd half.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:44pm
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Yea I saw that as well. Looked bad. Plus the OSU guy trying to block it.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:58pm
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It'll be a cold day in hell before you see an official at that level calling a T for dunking a dead ball in that situation.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:38pm
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It'll be a cold day in hell before you see an official at that level calling a T for dunking a dead ball in that situation.
He took like 3 dribbles after the whistle! It wasn't immediately after the foul.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:42pm
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He took like 3 dribbles after the whistle! It wasn't immediately after the foul.
It makes no difference, APG is correct. You're not going to see this called.
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He took like 3 dribbles after the whistle! It wasn't immediately after the foul.
Cold. Day. In. Hell.

That will not be called at that level.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:49pm
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Cold. Day. In. Hell.

That will not be called at that level.
But.....he took THREE dribbles and then dunked the ball.....

What about the rules...what about sportsmanship....what about the.........Kids!!!



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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:53pm
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Oh, noes. Think of the children.
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It makes no difference, APG is correct. You're not going to see this called.
I might have a word with a player in a HS game. Maybe. If I felt like it.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:06am
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I might have a word with a player in a HS game. Maybe. If I felt like it.
They'd want that called here.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2013, 01:13am
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That will never be called at this level. This is the explanation for too many things. Why? Why would it not be called? Has it ever been called at this level? Back in the 70's? You couldn't even dunk a live ball then, but was it okay to dunk a dead one? If this is a rule that will never be enforced, get it, along with the others that will not be called, out of the books.

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Old Thu Feb 21, 2013, 01:28am
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That will never be called at this level. This is the explanation for too many things. Why? Why would it not be called? Has it ever been called at this level? Back in the 70's? You couldn't even dunk a live ball then, but was it okay to dunk a dead one? If this is a rule that will never be enforced, get it, along with the others that will not be called, out of the books.

Less study questions.
It'll only be addressed when an official decides to go rogue and calls this call at a crucial moment of a game that ends up being a one or two points affair. As is, NCAA has no incentive to even address this rule as it isn't even an issue. They've got better things to do with their time.
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It'll only be addressed when an official decides to go rogue and calls this call at a crucial moment of a game that ends up being a one or two points affair. As is, NCAA has no incentive to even address this rule as it isn't even an issue. They've got better things to do with their time.
I'm sure this is the right answer that would come from whoever is in charge of such things.


But this makes it even worse. The only way this rule is worthy of anyones attention is when it is enforced as written.

Technically you're correct, but..............

Otherwise, just pretend it doesn't exist. Most people don't know it's there.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2013, 01:47am
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The only time I can imagine it being called is when it is not remotely connected with the continuation of a play.

Example: Foul/violation/timeount called, play completely stopped, then someone gets the ball and runs to the basket and dunks it. I've never seen that, but it could happen.
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I agree with those who say if no one is going to call it at that level the rule might as well be eliminated. That being said, I have a feeling this play is going to end up on John Adams' video list, mainly because the KU player dunked, hung on the rim and then there was a mini-confrontation with an OSU player.

If the OSU player gets a contact technical or an F2 for hammering the kid who just dunked a dead ball but the dunker - who just did something blatantly illegal - doesn't get anything, the crew is really in the soup. Even if a call is made on the KU player it's being done because the crew had to as opposed to being proactive.
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