The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 01:15pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 168
Send a message via AIM to tjchamp
Dunk dead ball

A1 is on a fast break at his own FT line when B1 catches up and hacks him. Whistle for the foul, before the shot. It's a fairly loud gym, but I heard the whistle from the top of the stands. A1 continues with the play and dunks the ball. B1 is with the A1 all the way to basket, so it's possible players didn't "hear" the whistle.

Would you call the T in this sitch or not. It's a subsectional playoff game, second half of a fairly close game.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 01:21pm
In Memoriam
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hell
Posts: 20,221
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjchamp
A1 is on a fast break at his own FT line when B1 catches up and hacks him. Whistle for the foul, before the shot. It's a fairly loud gym, but I heard the whistle from the top of the stands. A1 continues with the play and dunks the ball. B1 is with the A1 all the way to basket, so it's possible players didn't "hear" the whistle.

Would you call the T in this sitch or not. It's a subsectional playoff game, second half of a fairly close game.
No.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 01:24pm
Fav theme: Roundball Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Near Dog River (sorta)
Posts: 8,557
I got nuttin'.
__________________
Pope Francis
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 04:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,673
Send a message via MSN to IREFU2 Send a message via Yahoo to IREFU2
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjchamp
A1 is on a fast break at his own FT line when B1 catches up and hacks him. Whistle for the foul, before the shot. It's a fairly loud gym, but I heard the whistle from the top of the stands. A1 continues with the play and dunks the ball. B1 is with the A1 all the way to basket, so it's possible players didn't "hear" the whistle.

Would you call the T in this sitch or not. It's a subsectional playoff game, second half of a fairly close game.
Nope, I got nada....
__________________
Score the Basket!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 04:14pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Pasadena Ca
Posts: 280
Send a message via AIM to TRef21
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjchamp
A1 is on a fast break at his own FT line when B1 catches up and hacks him. Whistle for the foul, before the shot. It's a fairly loud gym, but I heard the whistle from the top of the stands. A1 continues with the play and dunks the ball. B1 is with the A1 all the way to basket, so it's possible players didn't "hear" the whistle.

Would you call the T in this sitch or not. It's a subsectional playoff game, second half of a fairly close game.
Unless you want to get chased go ahead and tech him. If i were on the game I have nothing.
__________________
Tommy
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 10, 2007, 01:14am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,146
To me, the intent of the rule is to define "dead ball" in this instance as a time when EVERYBODY in the gym (particularly the players) knows its dead rather than a situation in the rules where dead ball timing is made fairly precise (e.g. foul during shot attempt).
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 10, 2007, 10:27am
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 16,024
Infamous DeadBall Dunk

Here in Connecticut, we had an infamous, dead ball dunk back in the early 1980's. It was a long time ago, so I'm a little "fuzzy" regarding some of the specifics:

I believe it was Springfield College at Southern Connecticut State College, two NCAA division II teams. The game went right down to the last second, and after the final buzzer sounded, one of the players on the "winning" team dunked the ball to celebrate, before the officials had approved the final score and left the confines of the court. A technical foul was called, and the "losing" team went on to win in either regulation or overtime.

I can't remember which team actually won, or whether the game was won in regulation or overtime. I'm sure that some Forum members will be more than willing to fill in some of the facts in my "fuzzy" recollection.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 10, 2007, 10:40am
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,097
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac
Here in Connecticut, we had an infamous, dead ball dunk back in the early 1980's. It was a long time ago, so I'm a little "fuzzy" regarding some of the specifics:

I believe it was Springfield College at Southern Connecticut State College, two NCAA division II teams. The game went right down to the last second, and after the final buzzer sounded, one of the players on the "winning" team dunked the ball to celebrate, before the officials had approved the final score and left the confines of the court. A technical foul was called, and the "losing" team went on to win in either regulation or overtime.

I can't remember which team actually won, or whether the game was won in regulation or overtime. I'm sure that some Forum members will be more than willing to fill in some of the facts in my "fuzzy" recollection.
Do you recall if there was any rule changes after this incident?

I'm seeing a lot of inappropriate things going on now after the big DI games on TV. Guys pulling their jersey's out/off, etc., etc. I find it amazing how on this forum, we are expected to get every little stitch correct but it is not being enforced at the highest level and when I try to inject common sense into it (what is being done at the highest levels) I am shot down like I'm the enemy.

Interesting, there must be something in the kool-aid.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 10, 2007, 12:35pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 16,024
Get Off The .....

From Old School: "Do you recall if there was any rule changes after this incident?"

I'm a NFHS official, and this was an NCAA game, so I don't know if there was a NCAA rule change as a result of this situation. What I do know, is, after this situation, the interpreter of our local IAABO board encouraged us to get off the floor and away from the visual confines of the playing area as soon as possible. No signing the book. No waiting for the hand shake line. No talking to a friendly fan, site director, or athletic director. Just make eye contact with the official scorekeeper to "approve" the final score, and run, not walk, off the court, away from the "visual confines of the playing area" as soon as possible, and don't look back.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 10, 2007, 01:25pm
Statistician/Ref Hybrid
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 950
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old School
Do you recall if there was any rule changes after this incident?

I'm seeing a lot of inappropriate things going on now after the big DI games on TV. Guys pulling their jersey's out/off, etc., etc.
I believe it is only the NFHS that addresses taking off uniforms. NCAA, as far as I know, does not address this at all.
__________________
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible." Dalai Lama

The center of attention as the lead & trail. me
Games officiated - Basketball: 305, Softball: 50.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 10, 2007, 03:06pm
(Something hilarious)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: These United States
Posts: 1,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjchamp
A1 is on a fast break at his own FT line when B1 catches up and hacks him. Whistle for the foul, before the shot. It's a fairly loud gym, but I heard the whistle from the top of the stands. A1 continues with the play and dunks the ball. B1 is with the A1 all the way to basket, so it's possible players didn't "hear" the whistle.

Would you call the T in this sitch or not. It's a subsectional playoff game, second half of a fairly close game.
This literally just happened in the OSU-Purdue game.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Thrown Elbow - Live Ball vs. Dead Ball rfp Basketball 19 Sun Nov 12, 2006 05:15am
dunk during dead ball???? jritchie Basketball 7 Tue Oct 25, 2005 01:55pm
Legally putting ball in play, dead ball violations BJ Moose Baseball 20 Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:09am
Foul Ball Call - Does it make the ball dead ??? cmckenna Baseball 2 Tue Apr 30, 2002 08:53am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:12am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1