Neither jumper jumps

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Double player technicals?

That would be interesting, but we'd still have a jump ball afterwards.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Double player technicals?

Originally Posted by Rich

That would be interesting, but we'd still have a jump ball afterwards.

Yeah, but they'd be pretty motivated to jump, wouldn't they? Nobody wants to pick up his/her 2nd technical before the game even gets going.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Yeah, but they'd be pretty motivated to jump, wouldn't they? Nobody wants to pick up his/her 2nd technical before the game even gets going.

I don't buy this as a player technical, BTW, unless we're calling that for disobeying a directive of an official...

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't buy this as a player technical, BTW, unless we're calling that for disobeying a directive of an official...

I'm not sure what other reason you'd be calling a technical. Charging it to the player ensures a way out of the problem. Either someone's going to jump or the team with the fewest players is going to forfeit.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't buy this as a player technical, BTW, unless we're calling that for disobeying a directive of an official...

10-3-5-a???

"A player shall not: Delay the game by acts such as: Preventing the ball from being made live promptly or from being put in play."

So once we toss and they don't jump, we readminister and direct them both to jump...if they still won't jump, it seems like that falls under 10-3-5, no?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

10-3-5-a???

"A player shall not: Delay the game by acts such as: Preventing the ball from being made live promptly or from being put in play."

So once we toss and they don't jump, we readminister and direct them both to jump...if they still won't jump, it seems like that falls under 10-3-5, no?

Don't think so. The ball becomes live and put in play when the official tosses the ball. So, they've not prevented that.

However, I could go with the "similar acts" element of that article.

I'm probably just going to toss it so that it touches one of them.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Don't think so. The ball becomes live and put in play when the official tosses the ball. So, they've not prevented that.

However, I could go with the "similar acts" element of that article.

I'm probably just going to toss it so that it touches one of them.

That's a good point and also why the team technical provision really doesn't apply, either.

Strange, strange question. I'm just hopeful I don't see this happen from the court.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Don't think so. The ball becomes live and put in play when the official tosses the ball. So, they've not prevented that.

However, I could go with the "similar acts" element of that article.

I'm probably just going to toss it so that it touches one of them.

The ball is live when it leaves the official'hands...it is not in play until one or both jumpers tap the tossed ball. No other players are allowed to touch it, so it can't be considered in play.

Weird situation. I will be interested to hear if it actually happens.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The ball is live when it leaves the official'hands...it is not in play until one or both jumpers tap the tossed ball. No other players are allowed to touch it, so it can't be considered in play.

Weird situation. I will be interested to hear if it actually happens.

I suppose you could read "in play" to mean that since it is not explicitly defined anywhere. I think there are enough references in the book that could lead to either conclusion....not that it matters very much.

I see "in play" as meaning someone CAN do something with it.

SECTION 38 RESUMPTION-OF-PLAY PROCEDURE
The resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay in putting the ball in play when...

SECTION 6 BALL IN PLAY BY FREE THROW
The ball shall be put in play by placing it at the disposal of the free thrower before each free throw.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

"A player shall not: Delay the game by acts such as: Preventing the ball from being made live promptly or from being put in play." So once we toss and they don't jump, we readminister and direct them both to jump...if they still won't jump, it seems like that falls under 10-3-5.

Does this fall under the delay of game warning protocol? After the first toss, they are warned. Same thing after the second toss results in a double technical foul. Now if there are any subsequent delays, i.e. water on the floor after a timeout, has the team already been warned for one delay of game and thus, is immediately assessed a technical foul for delay of game?

Still haven't figured out what happens if they do if a third time?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Does this fall under the delay of game warning protocol? After the first toss, they are warned. Same thing after the second toss results in a double technical foul. Now if there are any subsequent delays, i.e. water on the floor after a timeout, has the team already been warned for one delay of game and thus, is immediately assessed a technical foul for delay of game?

Still haven't figured out what happens if they do if a third time?

Billy you know better.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't buy this as a player technical, BTW, unless we're calling that for disobeying a directive of an official...

That's exactly what it's for. If you don't like it (and I can see not liking it...)

What would your solution be?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Rich

That would be interesting, but we'd still have a jump ball afterwards.

Do it again. They already have one T. The second one and they are gone.