When is A jump stop consider a travel?

[Scuba_ref]

Coach, It comes down to when the dribble ended. If the dribble ends before the player jumped off of the one foot (in your example) then they must land simultaneously on two feet and they may not pivot. If the dribble ended after the one foot left the ground (so mid jump) then the player may land on one or two feet with the first foot becoming the pivot foot.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

Sorry, when I say "jump stop" I'm referring to:
Dribbler picks up dribble jumps off 1 foot and lands simultaneously on both feet. So, does the distance he travels in the air play a part on wether it's a violation or not?

I still would like to know how distance travelled got into the equation. Did someone suggest it to you or does it just look funny if someone can jump that far?

[jump stop]

My favorite topic: travel on the jump stop. Video should answer questions

[Coach Lou]

The question has been asked by coaches.
Examples:
A player "jump stops" from behind the 3pt line and lands by the 2 feet in front of the ft line.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

The question has been asked by coaches.
Examples:
A player "jump stops" from behind the 3pt line and lands by the 2 feet in front of the ft line.

Most HS age atheltes should be able to jump > 6 feet from a standing start. Give them a moving start (as on a dribble) and landing where you suggest shouldn't be a problem at all. It's all in whether they "stick the landing" (in the coach's play).

[maven]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

The question has been asked by coaches.
Examples:
A player "jump stops" from behind the 3pt line and lands by the 2 feet in front of the ft line.

So some coach think the rules define traveling in terms of how far a player can jump?

Wow.

[rekent]

Originally Posted by maven

So some coach think the rules define traveling in terms of how far a player can jump?

Wow.

Rule change for '13-'14, coaches have to take same test as officials??

Edit: On second thought, not sure if that would increase our headaches or decrease them...

[maven]

Originally Posted by rekent

Rule change for '13-'14, coaches have to take same test as officials??

Good idea. I wouldn't make this a condition of coaching, but if they fail the test they must wear a dunce cap to every contest.

[Coach Lou]

Coaches complain as it is. And Even worse when it looks funny. Especially if their own players can't stop it or do the same as the other players.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

Coaches complain as it is. And Even worse when it looks funny. Especially if their own players can't stop it or do the same as the other players.

"Coach, ugly is not illegal."

Useful because without being confrontational it acknowledges the accuracy of the coach's perception that something unusual and bad happened while asserting the correctness of the no-call by rule.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

Coaches complain as it is. And Even worse when it looks funny. Especially if their own players can't stop it or do the same as the other players.

That is why I often ask (when I have time), "Which one was the pivot foot?" Usually stops a lot of conversations about traveling because coaches often use myths or non-rulebook standards to complain.

Traveling is all about the pivot foot and what they can do with one if they established one (or both in some cases).

Peace

[rockchalk jhawk]

Originally Posted by rekent

Rule change for '13-'14, coaches have to take same test as officials??

Edit: On second thought, not sure if that would increase our headaches or decrease them...

In Kansas, head coaches are in fact required to take the same NFHS test as officials and pass it.

That being said, they all get the answers from somewhere and pass them around to each other, so...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by maven

"Coach, ugly is not illegal."

Useful because without being confrontational it acknowledges the accuracy of the coach's perception that something unusual and bad happened while asserting the correctness of the no-call by rule.

Used a similar line last week, "that was just an awkward, ugly dribble."

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Adam

Used a similar line last week, "that was just an awkward, ugly dribble."

I said this earlier this season to a coach on a high dribble that he wanted called a carry. His response was "I played basketball, I know what a carry is!"

This just happenes to be the coach that I ejected in the 4th quarter of that same game.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by KevinP

Dribbler picks up dribble jumps off 1 foot, must land simultaneously on both feet, has no pivot foot, but what can happen is they will land with one foot hitting before the other and then take a step to shoot or pass which is a travel. Distance on jump is inconsequential, IMO.

Fixed that part anyway. No charge.