When is A jump stop consider a travel?

[Coach Lou]

Sorry, when I say "jump stop" I'm referring to:
Dribbler picks up dribble jumps off 1 foot and lands simultaneously on both feet. So, does the distance he travels in the air play a part on wether it's a violation or not?

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

Sorry, when I say "jump stop" I'm referring to:
Dribbler picks up dribble jumps off 1 foot and lands simultaneously on both feet. So, does the distance he travels in the air play a part on wether it's a violation or not?

A legitimate "jump stop" is not a travel. Distance is irrelevant.

[Pantherdreams]

Whether you mean jump stop:

A) The player gathers the ball on 1 foot and hops to land on two.

B) Player hops and gathers the ball to land on two.

The distance travelled in the hop is irrelevant it just makes it a tougher move to defend (because of the correlation to the agility and athleticism needed to execute it legally).

Without getting back into it, I think this board has discussed many times the difficulties and inconsistencies in travel calls.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

Sorry, when I say "jump stop" I'm referring to:
Dribbler picks up dribble jumps off 1 foot and lands simultaneously on both feet. So, does the distance he travels in the air play a part on wether it's a violation or not?

Distance never matters.

In the play you describe, the player cannot pivot. If the feet don't land simultaneously, the play is a travel (some small allowance on simultaneously is ofen made).

In the play where the player gathers the ball in the air, then lands on both feet, either can be the pivot. If one foot lands first, that foot is the pivot.

Sometimes it can be very difficult to tell the difference between play 1 and play 2, especially if the player is "gathering" just as the player is leaving the gound.

[Scuba_ref]

Coach, It comes down to when the dribble ended. If the dribble ends before the player jumped off of the one foot (in your example) then they must land simultaneously on two feet and they may not pivot. If the dribble ended after the one foot left the ground (so mid jump) then the player may land on one or two feet with the first foot becoming the pivot foot.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

Sorry, when I say "jump stop" I'm referring to:
Dribbler picks up dribble jumps off 1 foot and lands simultaneously on both feet. So, does the distance he travels in the air play a part on wether it's a violation or not?

I still would like to know how distance travelled got into the equation. Did someone suggest it to you or does it just look funny if someone can jump that far?

[jump stop]

My favorite topic: travel on the jump stop. Video should answer questions

[Coach Lou]

The question has been asked by coaches.
Examples:
A player "jump stops" from behind the 3pt line and lands by the 2 feet in front of the ft line.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

The question has been asked by coaches.
Examples:
A player "jump stops" from behind the 3pt line and lands by the 2 feet in front of the ft line.

Most HS age atheltes should be able to jump > 6 feet from a standing start. Give them a moving start (as on a dribble) and landing where you suggest shouldn't be a problem at all. It's all in whether they "stick the landing" (in the coach's play).

[maven]

Originally Posted by Coach Lou

The question has been asked by coaches.
Examples:
A player "jump stops" from behind the 3pt line and lands by the 2 feet in front of the ft line.

So some coach think the rules define traveling in terms of how far a player can jump?

Wow.

[rekent]

Originally Posted by maven

So some coach think the rules define traveling in terms of how far a player can jump?

Wow.

Rule change for '13-'14, coaches have to take same test as officials??

Edit: On second thought, not sure if that would increase our headaches or decrease them...

[maven]

Originally Posted by rekent

Rule change for '13-'14, coaches have to take same test as officials??

Good idea. I wouldn't make this a condition of coaching, but if they fail the test they must wear a dunce cap to every contest.

[rockchalk jhawk]

Originally Posted by rekent

Rule change for '13-'14, coaches have to take same test as officials??

Edit: On second thought, not sure if that would increase our headaches or decrease them...

In Kansas, head coaches are in fact required to take the same NFHS test as officials and pass it.

That being said, they all get the answers from somewhere and pass them around to each other, so...

[Brad]

Originally Posted by jump stop

My favorite topic: travel on the jump stop. Video should answer questions...

I'm just going to leave this here... Vertical Video Syndrome - A PSA - YouTube

[rekent]

Originally Posted by Brad

I'm just going to leave this here... Vertical Video Syndrome - A PSA - YouTube

Wow... just wow. That was nice.