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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:58pm
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Waiting on a tech?

A makes a steal and has an apparent 2 on zero breakaway. B's coach issues some creative language regarding your parentage, earning a T.

1) Do you wait until the breakaway has scored before issuing the T?
2) What if the first shot is missed, but B team defenders are still not back and A still has another easy shot - wait still?
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:00pm
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Wait until the scoring opportunity passes. It's a casebook play, I think.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:02pm
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Wait until the scoring opportunity passes. It's a casebook play, I think.
Question 1 was for the partner I discussed this with... who did not do that.
Question 2 was more for me... how long is "the scoring opportunity".
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:03pm
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Wait until the scoring opportunity passes. It's a casebook play, I think.
Yes, it is. 10.4.1

As soon as the shot is made or missed, assess the T
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:06pm
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Delayed whistle. Let the play happen, if they score on the lay up then get it, if they don't then get it after the attempt.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:06pm
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1. Most definitely wait.
2. I'd still wait in this situation.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:23pm
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2. I'd still wait in this situation.
So would I. I see no limit on time or number of attempts. The key phase for me is "defenders are still not back."
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:33pm
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I'd wait until Team B got possession.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:59pm
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A makes a steal and has an apparent 2 on zero breakaway. B's coach issues some creative language regarding your parentage, earning a T.

1) Do you wait until the breakaway has scored before issuing the T?
2) What if the first shot is missed, but B team defenders are still not back and A still has another easy shot - wait still?
1). Wait
2). Wait....
...Now Go....
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:23pm
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Just do not call the T when the player is shooting.

I had a partner do this and there was an issue of if the basket counted or if it did not count (not by the crew but the coach). No hurry to call the T when a team is driving hard to the basket.

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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:25pm
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Withhold Whistle ...

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10.4.1.
10.4.1 SITUATION F: A1 is driving toward the basket for an apparent goal when
the official, while trailing the play advancing in the direction in which the ball is
being advanced, is cursed by the head coach or bench personnel of Team B. How
should the official handle this situation? RULING: The official shall withhold blowing
the whistle until A1 has either made or missed the shot. The official shall then
sound the whistle and assess the Team B head coach or bench personnel with a
technical foul. If the official judges the act to be flagrant, the offender shall be
ejected. If A’s coach or bench personnel was the offender, the whistle shall be
sounded immediately when the unsporting act occurs. (10-4-1a)
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:57pm
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I see no reason not to wait.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:01pm
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I'd wait until Team B got possession.
Hahaha!!

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Old Sat Feb 02, 2013, 12:24pm
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I had a situation like this last night, but with an intentional foul.

A1 had had the ball stolen by B1 at A's end of the floor. A1 and B1 both go to the floor but B has a breakaway. A1 is mad because she fell and lost the ball and throws an elbow into B1 while on the ground. I waited to call the foul after B scored the layup but wasn't sure if this is right. The more my partners and I thought about it, it should have been called right away since that reduces the risk of retaliation. Thoughts?
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Old Sat Feb 02, 2013, 12:39pm
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I had a situation like this last night, but with an intentional foul.

A1 had had the ball stolen by B1 at A's end of the floor. A1 and B1 both go to the floor but B has a breakaway. A1 is mad because she fell and lost the ball and throws an elbow into B1 while on the ground. I waited to call the foul after B scored the layup but wasn't sure if this is right. The more my partners and I thought about it, it should have been called right away since that reduces the risk of retaliation. Thoughts?
You do not wait to call intentional fouls. Only technical fouls you can wait because you are reacting to conduct, not contact. You should have called the foul right away or you will have other action that will continue and you might have to call other things. I do not like to say never, but never wait for an intentional foul to be called just because someone is trying to score.

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