Waiting on a tech?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Wait until the scoring opportunity passes. It's a casebook play, I think.

Yes, it is. 10.4.1

As soon as the shot is made or missed, assess the T

[OKREF]

Delayed whistle. Let the play happen, if they score on the lay up then get it, if they don't then get it after the attempt.

[APG]

1. Most definitely wait.
2. I'd still wait in this situation.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by APG

2. I'd still wait in this situation.

So would I. I see no limit on time or number of attempts. The key phase for me is "defenders are still not back."

[tjones1]

I'd wait until Team B got possession.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I'd wait until Team B got possession.

Hahaha!!

Vicious!

[StlCards]

I had a situation like this last night, but with an intentional foul.

A1 had had the ball stolen by B1 at A's end of the floor. A1 and B1 both go to the floor but B has a breakaway. A1 is mad because she fell and lost the ball and throws an elbow into B1 while on the ground. I waited to call the foul after B scored the layup but wasn't sure if this is right. The more my partners and I thought about it, it should have been called right away since that reduces the risk of retaliation. Thoughts?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by StlCards

I had a situation like this last night, but with an intentional foul.

A1 had had the ball stolen by B1 at A's end of the floor. A1 and B1 both go to the floor but B has a breakaway. A1 is mad because she fell and lost the ball and throws an elbow into B1 while on the ground. I waited to call the foul after B scored the layup but wasn't sure if this is right. The more my partners and I thought about it, it should have been called right away since that reduces the risk of retaliation. Thoughts?

You do not wait to call intentional fouls. Only technical fouls you can wait because you are reacting to conduct, not contact. You should have called the foul right away or you will have other action that will continue and you might have to call other things. I do not like to say never, but never wait for an intentional foul to be called just because someone is trying to score.

Peace

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by StlCards

I had a situation like this last night, but with an intentional foul.

A1 had had the ball stolen by B1 at A's end of the floor. A1 and B1 both go to the floor but B has a breakaway. A1 is mad because she fell and lost the ball and throws an elbow into B1 while on the ground. I waited to call the foul after B scored the layup but wasn't sure if this is right. The more my partners and I thought about it, it should have been called right away since that reduces the risk of retaliation. Thoughts?

That is certainly not a intentional foul, its a go-straight-to-jail flagrant.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by StlCards

I had a situation like this last night, but with an intentional foul.

I had the same sitch last week, but with a technical foul:

A1 had had the ball stolen by B1 at A's end of the floor. A1 and B1 both go to the floor but B has a breakaway. A1 is mad because he fell and lost the ball and curses me for not calling a foul on B1......

1) I whistled the T on A1....
2) Which stopped B's breakaway....
3) Which then had B's HC all over me when I went to the table to report the T on A1.....
4) Which then had my (more experienced) P, during the next TO, taking me to task for what B's HC had just chewed my butt for.....
5) Why P couldn't hold off on his constructive criticism until we got into the locker room at halftime still has me miffed.....

Reading this thread, needless to say I pooched this one.

Thoughts?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

10.4.1.

10.4.1 SITUATION F: A1 is driving toward the basket for an apparent goal when
the official, while trailing the play advancing in the direction in which the ball is
being advanced, is cursed by the head coach or bench personnel of Team B. How
should the official handle this situation? RULING: The official shall withhold blowing
the whistle until A1 has either made or missed the shot. The official shall then
sound the whistle and assess the Team B head coach or bench personnel with a
technical foul. If the official judges the act to be flagrant, the offender shall be
ejected. If A’s coach or bench personnel was the offender, the whistle shall be
sounded immediately when the unsporting act occurs. (10-4-1a)