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[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He said this...
"I have a crash on the baseline"

So it appears he should have had a whistle. A good official recognizes when he misses a call. We can't just say "I didn't call it, so it wasn't a foul".

Agreed.

I have no idea if there should have been a foul called or not. It doesn't matter though.

My approach though is that when someone goes to the floor, we have to know how. (I know it can be tough at times, especially in 2-man crews.) But when a crash is big enough*, I think in order to not have a foul (block or charge), we can lean towards a call until something exists to prove us otherwise.

A baseball analogy would be, the batter-runner is out at 1B unless something exists that shows otherwise: he clearly beat the ball to the bag, or the foot was clearly lifted before caught, etc.

However, we have just a split second to make that call in basketball. I don't know how long baseball has to make the above call. So, make the call, and live with it. But if it's the right call, you'll know it on the drive home. If you screwed it up, you'll know that too.


* big enough likely comes from experience

[stiffler3492]

I agree with that notion too, with the points that Juggling added.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Agreed.

I have no idea if there should have been a foul called or not. It doesn't matter though.

My approach though is that when someone goes to the floor, we have to know how. (I know it can be tough at times, especially in 2-man crews.) But when a crash is big enough*, I think in order to not have a foul (block or charge), we can lean towards a call until something exists to prove us otherwise.

A baseball analogy would be, the batter-runner is out at 1B unless something exists that shows otherwise: he clearly beat the ball to the bag, or the foot was clearly lifted before caught, etc.

However, we have just a split second to make that call in basketball. I don't know how long baseball has to make the above call. So, make the call, and live with it. But if it's the right call, you'll know it on the drive home. If you screwed it up, you'll know that too.


* big enough likely comes from experience

If you can't pin it on the defense, I think you have to go with a player control foul. A true 50/50 should go that way, cause A1 had the choice of whether to go through the defender.

Still, I've had some players go down fairly hard with no foul in the past -- and I've felt perfectly fine with my decision. He needs to make that decision without considering A2's reaction -- just because a player flips and gets ejected doesn't mean he made a bad initial decision.