Head Coach location

[letemplay]

In a state using optional coaching box, HC gets T'd and must park his hiney. Is there any requirement now about where, up and down the bench, he may sit? It would seem to me he should have to take a seat adjacent to the 14' box, so that when he did rise as allowed, he'd be in box area. I doubt he would be anywhere else, and don't think he should get up and go to far end near baseline, whether he's visiting water cooler or coaching from that corner. Any comments?

[Smitty]

The box is irrelevant once he is not allowed to stand and coach in it. I couldn't care less where he sits as long as it's somewhere on the bench. As long as he's behaving himself, why worry about such things?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Smitty

The box is irrelevant once he is not allowed to stand and coach in it. I couldn't care less where he sits as long as it's somewhere on the bench. As long as he's behaving himself, why worry about such things?

Not correct. 10-5-1: "The head coach shall remain seated on the team bench, except..." Then, if a. is allowed but he "lost the box", he can still b., c., d., and e., but the preliminary expectation stated prior to a. still applies.
Right?

EDIT: Oh, I think I see what you mean..."as long as it's somewhere on the bench" is your operative phrase. You saying that "somewhere on the bench" might not necessary be "in the box"? He might possibly be "on the bench" but no longer "in the box." Which looks like it would be okay.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Not correct. 10-5-1: "The head coach shall remain seated on the team bench, except..." Then, if a. is allowed but he "lost the box", he can still b., c., d., and e., but the preliminary expectation stated prior to a. still applies.
Right?

WTF?

[just another ref]

If he's not using the box, voluntarily or otherwise, he may sit anywhere on the bench.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Smitty

WTF?

What does the Wisconsin Tourist Federation have to do with the topic?

(see my edit, which unfortunately came a little late..... )

[JetMetFan]

Thanks, JAR. If he's been using the box, he has to stay in it. If he hasn't then he can stay wherever he wants but that means he wouldn't have had coaching box privileges during that game prior to the T.

So...if he's been using the box since the start of the game, my first answer applies.

If he hasn't been using the box since the start of the game, he shouldn't have been afforded any of the coaching box rights in the first place.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Smitty

The box is irrelevant once he is not allowed to stand and coach in it. I couldn't care less where he sits as long as it's somewhere on the bench. As long as he's behaving himself, why worry about such things?

I've gotten 2 emails from a college supervisor this week telling us we are not enforcing the coaches sitting in chairs within the box.

So apparently somebody cares, and it's somebody who signs checks.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I've gotten 2 emails from a college supervisor this week telling us we are not enforcing the coaches sitting in chairs within the box.

So apparently somebody cares, and it's somebody who signs checks.

There is no such rule in NFHS basketball once the coach no longer has access to the box. He can sit anywhere on the bench. If he is going to use the box during the game and starts the game seated, it must be within the box. When the box here was only 6' it was a real pain to tell the coach his chair had to be in there -- it reminded me of a small jail cell.

Obviously, in NCAA basketball things are different since the coach doesn't lose the box after a technical foul. And of course the box is 28' long. So there it makes perfect sense to expect that the coach always be in the box.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich

There is no such rule in NFHS basketball once the coach no longer has access to the box. He can sit anywhere on the bench. If he is going to use the box during the game and starts the game seated, it must be within the box. When the box here was only 6' it was a real pain to tell the coach his chair had to be in there -- it reminded me of a small jail cell.

Obviously, in NCAA basketball things are different since the coach doesn't lose the box after a technical foul. And of course the box is 28' long. So there it makes perfect sense to expect that the coach always be in the box.

Right. "Bench area" and "coaches box" are (nearly) synonymous in NCAA; not so in FED.

[letemplay]

You mean college coaches can get T'd? Anybody see end of MD-NC State? MD coach had to set high jump record protesting a call way out onto floor...guess now he's glad ole Roger didnt whack him

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I've gotten 2 emails from a college supervisor this week telling us we are not enforcing the coaches sitting in chairs within the box.

So apparently somebody cares, and it's somebody who signs checks.

I only work high school so I'm not aware of any college specific rules in this area. Sorry if I created any confusion. Since the new mods are having fun playing with name titles, maybe they can figure out a way to denote which rulesets we officiate under as part of our post headers. That might help imply context for situations like this.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I only work high school so I'm not aware of any college specific rules in this area. Sorry if I created any confusion. Since the new mods are having fun playing with name titles, maybe they can figure out a way to denote which rulesets we officiate under as part of our post headers. That might help imply context for situations like this.

Sorry, it's up to the posters to put that in the thread titles. Some threads benefit from looking at multiple rulesets, too.

Besides, we've moved on -- we (the moderator group) spent over an hour yesterday in an online chat trying to decide what color our names should be and whether they should be bolded or not. Important stuff, indeed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Sorry, it's up to the posters to put that in the thread titles. Some threads benefit from looking at multiple rulesets, too.

Besides, we've moved on -- we (the moderator group) spent over an hour yesterday in an online chat trying to decide what color our names should be and whether they should be bolded or not. Important stuff, indeed.

Next up, avatars.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I only work high school so I'm not aware of any college specific rules in this area. Sorry if I created any confusion. Since the new mods are having fun playing with name titles, maybe they can figure out a way to denote which rulesets we officiate under as part of our post headers. That might help imply context for situations like this.

Use a signature that denotes which rulesets you officiate which is already done by some posters.