Game ending err

[just another ref]

What level was this? Obviously a big goof for the official, but you would think even a player might have recognized that he couldn't run the endline in the frontcourt.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by just another ref

What level was this? Obviously a big goof for the official, but you would think even a player might have recognized that he couldn't run the endline in the frontcourt.

I'm always surprised when a high school player (let's say sophomore or above) asks me if he/she has the baseline. They've watched/played enough ball by then to know that rule. Maybe I expect too much

[Rich]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I'm always surprised when a high school player (let's say sophomore or above) asks me if he/she has the baseline. They've watched/played enough ball by then to know that rule. Maybe I expect too much

Are you kidding? Players ask whose BALL it is after a timeout. And at halftime. And at the quarter break. You'd think they'd know how to read the possession arrow. And that the coach would mention something to them.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Rich

Are you kidding? Players ask whose BALL it is after a timeout. And at halftime. And at the quarter break. You'd think they'd know how to read the possession arrow. And that the coach would mention something to them.

A mechanic that I invented around here is at the end of a quarter (or half), I stand in the centre-circle and verbalize and point whose ball it on the ensuing DL throw-in to start the next quarter. I do this so that each coach can coach their players with knowing who we're giving the ball to.

Even with that, so many times at the start of that next quarter, "whose ball is it"?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

A mechanic that I invented around here is at the end of a quarter (or half), I stand in the centre-circle and verbalize and point whose ball it on the ensuing DL throw-in to start the next quarter. I do this so that each coach can coach their players with knowing who we're giving the ball to.

Even with that, so many times at the start of that next quarter, "whose ball is it"?

We go into the huddle on the first horn and tell them whose ball it is -- when the players come out, they STILL ask.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Are you kidding? Players ask whose BALL it is after a timeout. And at halftime. And at the quarter break. You'd think they'd know how to read the possession arrow. And that the coach would mention something to them.

The coaches ask, too.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Rich

Are you kidding? And at halftime. And at the quarter break. You'd think they'd know how to read the possession arrow.

+1 When time allows, when a player asks "whose ball is it?" I often answer,
"I don't know. How do you tell?"

At ALL LEVELS, some look sheepish and look at the arrow, but many look like I asked them for the secret to the mysteries of the universe.

[BillyMac]

I fondly remember the do-overs in the sandlot baseball games of my youth. No umpires. We eventually figured everything out. Seldom did anybody stop the game, pick up their taped over baseball, and taped up bat, and go home after a "debate". It's was a much simpler time.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Rich

Are you kidding? Players ask whose BALL it is after a timeout. And at halftime. And at the quarter break. You'd think they'd know how to read the possession arrow. And that the coach would mention something to them.

Haha. Now that's bad.

By the way, love the little caption under your screen name.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

Are you kidding? Players ask whose BALL it is after a timeout. And at halftime. And at the quarter break. You'd think they'd know how to read the possession arrow. And that the coach would mention something to them.

They even ask when you are pointing in the direction with your arm.

Peace

[VaTerp]

Wow just realizing this was in the frontcourt.

I'd rather see the T whistle and stop play when the kid left the spot thanend up with the outcome you did.

At least that way you could have prevented your partner from completely screwing both of you.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Wow just realizing this was in the frontcourt.

I'd rather see the T whistle and stop play when the kid left the spot thanend up with the outcome you did.

At least that way you could have prevented your partner from completely screwing both of you.

Let's say this happened....as soon as the T saw the thrower move and realized the L wasn't blowing the whistle, T blows the whistle to kill the play.

At that point, after the officials realize the error, can you justify a do over? This assumes that the ball was not inbounded prior to the whistle.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Andy

Let's say this happened....as soon as the T saw the thrower move and realized the L wasn't blowing the whistle, T blows the whistle to kill the play.

At that point, after the officials realize the error, can you justify a do over? This assumes that the ball was not inbounded prior to the whistle.

I can't imagine your scenario happening. As T, I'm not watching the thrower, I'm watching some of the other 8 or 9.

I CAN imagine seeing my partner signal "run the line" to the thrower, and I would stop him at that point and fix it.

[OKREF]

2-10-1

Officials may correct an error if a rule is inadvertently set aside and results in.....

e. Erroneously counting or canceling a score.

My question, since the error lead to counting a score, could this be used to correct the error? I am in the corner that says once the play happened it is probably not correctable, however maybe this application says otherwise.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by OKREF

2-10-1

Officials may correct an error if a rule is inadvertently set aside and results in.....

e. Erroneously counting or canceling a score.

My question, since the error lead to counting a score, could this be used to correct the error? I am in the corner that says once the play happened it is probably not correctable, however maybe this application says otherwise.

The officials didn't erroneously count a score. They failed to call a violation and the team scored afterwards. Same as if the kid had double-dribbled or travelled and we missed it.