First to touch?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Do you really think there are not at least SOME refs out there every night that do not know ALL the rules, or some that view/interpret differently? Hence a forum such as this

Oh there are....but once you are able to sit down and discuss or type about it, you should have already consulted the rule book.

Also, listen to the words they said, "clearly down before touching". Does that sound like something they got from the rule book or something that just got passed down to them or they just made up on their own?

Player location doesn't fall under in the category of some obscure rule. That's something anybody past their 1st year of officiating should know by the rule book, not by hearsay, IMO.

[letemplay]

I'm not saying "they" are right and I also said I don't judge this play that way, just wanted to hear what others had to say. I see you agree with me.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by letemplay

I'm not saying "they" are right and I also said I don't judge this play that way, just wanted to hear what others had to say. I see you agree with me.

Yes, I do.
Thank you for taking my words in the kindest possible way.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Yes, I do.
Thank you for taking my words in the kindest possible way.

Ha I actually did not see your post before making my last...my response would have been similar...sometimes I either am not expressing myself accurately here or am misunderstood a bit..doesn't bother me as I generally don't get too worked up over much.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by letemplay

I'm not saying "they" are right and I also said I don't judge this play that way, just wanted to hear what others had to say. I see you agree with me.

I think you're missing my point.

This is something that is black-n-white within the rule book. Yes, during a game or in the locker room, you might get some mis-information. But once you've left the game and now get a chance to think about the rule, you're FIRST MOVE should be to the rule book, not asking for more opinions.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I think you're missing my point.

This is something that is black-n-white within the rule book. Yes, during a game or in the locker room, you might get some mis-information. But once you've left the game and now get a chance to think about the rule, you're FIRST MOVE should be to the rule book, not asking for more opinions.

So this forum/message board is NOT for opinions? Funny, I think I've read a few.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by letemplay

So this forum/message board is NOT for opinions? Funny, I think I've read a few.

Still missing his point.

Some plays call for opinions.

Others, such as player location, are not subject to opinion. They're just too clear.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by letemplay

So this forum/message board is NOT for opinions? Funny, I think I've read a few.

You're still missing the point. At what point do you verify what the rule book says, and not just get opinions from other officials?

And there is no "opinion" about player location in the example you cited. It's clearly defined in the rule book. So I'm bewildered as to why you choose opinions over the actual written rule.