First to touch?

[rekent]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Just to clarify: Going out voluntarily or delaying his return have nothing to do with touching the ball. These are infractions whether he touches the ball afterward or not. He can't touch the ball because it will already be dead.

While they do not have to do specifically with "touching the ball," they are still an aspect of the overall situation that must be looked at if/when this play takes place. Even the case play explicitly mentions the voluntary aspect. My memory is failing me at the moment though, what is the rule reference on the delayed return back inbounds infraction?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by rekent

While they do not have to do specifically with "touching the ball," they are still an aspect of the overall situation that must be looked at if/when this play takes place. Even the case play explicitly mentions the voluntary aspect. My memory is failing me at the moment though, what is the rule reference on the delayed return back inbounds infraction?

10-3-2: A player shall not purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after being legally out of bounds.

technical foul

[rekent]

Originally Posted by just another ref

10-3-2: A player shall not purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after being legally out of bounds.

technical foul

Thanks, was drawing a blank and seemed to keep looking right past it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rekent

While they do not have


to do specifically with "touching the ball," they are still an aspect of the overall situation that must be looked at if/when this play takes place. Even the case play explicitly mentions the voluntary aspect. My memory is failing me at the moment though, what is the rule reference on the delayed return back inbounds infraction?

That concerns throw-ins, not this situation.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

That concerns throw-ins, not this situation.

10-3-2 does not distinguish between the thrower-in and any other player who is legally out of bounds.

[rekent]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

That concerns throw-ins, not this situation.

Case 7.1.1 B is the one I was talking about, and it is not throw-in.

[BillyMac]

If a player's momentum carries him or her off the court, he or she can be the first player to touch the ball after returning inbounds. That player must not have left the court voluntarily and must immediately return inbounds. That player must have something in and nothing out. It is not necessary to have both feet back inbounds. It is a violation for a player to intentionally leave the court for an unauthorized reason.

[letemplay]

Would this also apply to: A1 has advanced the ball into his frontcourt and turns to pass to A2 just coming across midcourt line. When he touches ball, A2 has one foot down in the frontcourt, nothing in backcourt. Is this considered position (FC) established?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Would this also apply to: A1 has advanced the ball into his frontcourt and turns to pass to A2 just coming across midcourt line. When he touches ball, A2 has one foot down in the frontcourt, nothing in backcourt. Is this considered position (FC) established?

Look up player location.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

Look up player location.

You are where you are until you get where you're going.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Would this also apply to: A1 has advanced the ball into his frontcourt and turns to pass to A2 just coming across midcourt line. When he touches ball, A2 has one foot down in the frontcourt, nothing in backcourt. Is this considered position (FC) established?

Why wouldn't it be? Has someone locally told you something that would make you doubt this?

[letemplay]

That is how I would rule it, but have seen others say both feet needed to be clearly down before touching.