NCAA M inadvertent whistle?

[zeedonk]

Watching Illinois at Purdue on BTN- 10:58 in 2d half- whistle for Purdue timeout. Coach says he didn't call a timeout. Ball placed back in play and off they went. No mention of IW by announcers or PA announcer. Unsure of my NCAA M rule but doesn't NFHS require using the TO once granted? Not sure if there is even an IW option once TO is granted.... Anyone?

Zeedonk

[stiffler3492]

Correct me if I'm wrong, and I know someone will, but the NFHS rule you're thinking about is for something like Team B calling timeout while Team A has team control. I think in that situation, even though you've made the mistake, the timeout must be granted.

[johnny d]

how exactly do you grant a TO to a team that isnt requesting one? this play is straightforward at both hs and ncaa level and was handled correctly by the officials.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by zeedonk

Unsure of my NCAA M rule but doesn't NFHS require using the TO once granted?

NFHS requires honoring a request that was granted in error.

In this play (as described), a TO was not requested. That's the difference.

[zeedonk]

So am I correct that in NCAA M, if a coach says he didn't ask for a time out after the official whistles for a time out, the ball is placed back in play at the point of interruption and no time out is charged and no inadvertent whistle has occurred?
Thanks,

Zeedonk

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by zeedonk

So am I correct that in NCAA M, if a coach says he didn't ask for a time out after the official whistles for a time out, the ball is placed back in play at the point of interruption and no time out is charged and no inadvertent whistle has occurred?
Thanks,

Zeedonk

This is also the NFHS ruling. But in NFHS, if Team A has the ball and Team B is granted a timeout, you give it to Team B.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by zeedonk

So am I correct that in NCAA M, if a coach says he didn't ask for a time out after the official whistles for a time out, the ball is placed back in play at the point of interruption and no time out is charged and no inadvertent whistle has occurred?
Thanks,

Zeedonk

Yes, yes, and no.

An IW has occurred; therefore, play resumes at the POI.

4-53-1

[DrPete]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

This is also the NFHS ruling. But in NFHS, if Team A has the ball and Team B is granted a timeout, you give it to Team B.

What????? So in a close game if the B coach or B players yell time out while team A has control, and a whistle mistakenly is blown stopping play, and the the time out is granted to team B, then they get the ball after the time out ??? That seems like a turnover orchestrated by the official's mistake.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by DrPete

What????? So in a close game if the B coach or B players yell time out while team A has control, and a whistle mistakenly is blown stopping play, and the the time out is granted to team B, then they get the ball after the time out ??? That seems like a turnover orchestrated by the official's mistake.

No. Team A would keep possession.

"Team B gets it" meant Team B gets the timeout. It=timeout in that sentence.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DrPete

What????? So in a close game if the B coach or B players yell time out while team A has control, and a whistle mistakenly is blown stopping play, and the the time out is granted to team B, then they get the ball after the time out ??? That seems like a turnover orchestrated by the official's mistake.

Pretty sure he meant "it" as "the timeout", not the ball.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

No. Team A would keep possession.

"Team B gets it" meant Team B gets the timeout. It=timeout in that sentence.

Mr. Grammar person agrees -- "timeout" is the noun immediately preceeding the pronoun "it".

[JugglingReferee]

"it" is the timeout. Or, the weird thing from L'Engle's novel.

[Camron Rust]

I've always wondered what it was under all that hair.



Now we know.