Travel or Not?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually I commented on what others were saying. I also do not think there was control. I do not care what others see. I just know I am not calling this play a travel. Again if you have to slow video down to make a determination, to me that is not a good call to make.

Peace

Not saying this will get called but you usually don't deem there to be control until they've held it for 3-4 seconds.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not saying this will get called but you usually don't deem there to be control until they've held it for 3-4 seconds.

Not sure what seconds have to do with my point, I just think it is like football you have to bring the ball into your body to really demonstrate some control or something similar while moving and catching the ball. I believe I showed a video on this site where a player touched the ball with one foot on the floor but most here did not consider control until that foot left the floor. Again that is why it is called judgment and we all do not share the very same level or have the same philosophies to cover these plays.

Peace

[just another ref]

I see control when the ball hits the player in his two hands and sticks there, which is what happened in this video, followed by his landing with a 1,2,3 count. The travel actually had nothing to do with the release of the dribble.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not sure what seconds have to do with my point, I just think it is like football you have to bring the ball into your body to really demonstrate some control or something similar while moving and catching the ball. I believe I showed a video on this site where a player touched the ball with one foot on the floor but most here did not consider control until that foot left the floor. Again that is why it is called judgment and we all do not share the very same level or have the same philosophies to cover these plays.

Peace

Unfortunately, this isn't football and nowhere have I ever heard such an interpretation except from you.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Unfortunately, this isn't football and nowhere have I ever heard such an interpretation except from you.

I did not say what it was an interpretation. Don't read too much into a person's take on a play. Just telling you how I determine when someone clearly has possession. If you think I am the only one that tires to find things to make a judgement, then you need to talk to more officials. And I believe I showed a video on this site where people basically drew a similar conclusion.

Pivot foot discussion

Peace