Make The Call

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

Mark, it's not a 10-3-1 issue unless they participate without informing the officials. The officials have been notified prior to them playing with the changed version.

Camron, what rule? The numbers haven't changed. Would you call a T if the switch was made right before the game started?

I can understand spirit and intent here, but by the letter, what's the rule?

You can't dodge the rule by changing the "names" instead of changing the "numbers". The player are listed in the book. If the number attached to the name is not the number the player is wearing, then that number must be changed to what they are wearing. The name is the fixed element and the numbers listed must match what that person is wearing.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You can't dodge the rule by changing the "names" instead of changing the "numbers". The player are listed in the book. If the number attached to the name is not the number the player is wearing, then that number must be changed to what they are wearing. The name is the fixed element and the numbers listed must match what that person is wearing.

Except that the rule doesn't say anything about changing names...it prohibits changing numbers. If the numbers are not changed, just the names moved, how does that violate the rule?

Not trying to be argumentative at all...this is one that I simply don't get. And I honestly have no idea what the names of 99% of the players are anyway...so how would we even know unless the scorer told us they switched names?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Except that the rule doesn't say anything about changing names...it prohibits changing numbers. If the numbers are not changed, just the names moved, how does that violate the rule?

Not trying to be argumentative at all...this is one that I simply don't get. And I honestly have no idea what the names of 99% of the players are anyway...so how would we even know unless the scorer told us they switched names?

I'm not saying we would know who is who, but the rule says that if player XYZ is wearing 23 but is listed as 12, then the book has to be changed to show that XYZ is wearing 23. That is the whole point of the rule, to properly identify who is who by number. The whole structure of the roster rules define a list of names (the one thing that is absolute) that is labeled with the numbers they're wearing.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You can't dodge the rule by changing the "names" instead of changing the "numbers". The player are listed in the book. If the number attached to the name is not the number the player is wearing, then that number must be changed to what they are wearing. The name is the fixed element and the numbers listed must match what that person is wearing.

But that's just it, by the time the officials were notified, the players were wearing the jersey numbers as the book listed them. IOW, no changes were made to anything except the stats.

Assuming their foul counts were different after one half.