throw-in

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by KyKatsFan

The difference could be the throw in spot location and whether or not the thrower in can run the end line.
If considered a throw in violation, reset the original throw in conditions. If just OOB, designated spot would be in effect and possibly in a new location.

Also, if the original throw in in the OP is an AP throw in, does the arrow change or stay the same?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Also, if the original throw in in the OP is an AP throw in, does the arrow change or stay the same?

Excellent question...I don't have an answer for you yet.

[just another ref]

The arrow would switch. The throw-in ends when the passed ball touches or is touched by another player out of bounds.

4-42-5b

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The arrow would switch. The throw-in ends when the passed ball touches or is touched by another player out of bounds.

4-42-5b

Good to know!

So B can benefit by playing outside the lines. Interesting.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Good to know!

So B can benefit by playing outside the lines. Interesting.

A had their chance to make a an AP throwin.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Good to know!

So B can benefit by playing outside the lines. Interesting.

What's the benefit?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

What's the benefit?

Half a possession.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Half a possession.

There is no benefit. The violation carries its own penalty. The AP throw-in is over. The out of bounds violation is totally different than a kick, which is a deliberate, illegal act.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Half a possession.

That would be a benefit if we also called it a throw-in violation on A and gave B the ball and the arrow.

And maybe even if we wnet back to the original spot and gave the ball to A.

But since we're giving the ball to A at the spot where B touched it OOB, then it's not different from B tipping the ball and causing it to go OOB.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Also, if the original throw in in the OP is an AP throw in, does the arrow change or stay the same?

The arrow changes when the ball is touched legally in bounds. That never happened, so the arrow shouldn't change.

B being out of bounds, imm, is no different than first touching the ball by kicking it. Not a legal touch, so A's subsequent throw in is for the B violation, and A would keep the arrow.