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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 01:52am
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Assume you left visual confines and approved final score.
Assume book was accurate but scoreboard was inaccurate
What did you approve - book or scoreboard?
Also, assume you did all you could do as as an official - i.e. checked and verified with table personnel that all was accurate before you left visual confines

Then, after you had showered and dressed, the coach presents an accurate book that reflects that the score is tied.

What do you do as officials? What does the cooach do?
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 09:22am
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Rut,

Assume you left visual confines and approved final score.
Assume book was accurate but scoreboard was inaccurate
When I "check the book" I physically look at the "running score" to see what are the last boxes checked on each side. That's the "score I'm approving" and it will be the same as the scoreboard (or we'll find out then why not).

If later it's discovered that the detailed notations don't add up to the running score? Too bad.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 10:22am
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When I "check the book" I physically look at the "running score" to see what are the last boxes checked on each side. That's the "score I'm approving" and it will be the same as the scoreboard (or we'll find out then why not).

If later it's discovered that the detailed notations don't add up to the running score? Too bad.
Bob,

I verify matches (home book, visiting book, scoreboard) at halftime and some point near the end of a game. If the game is close at the end, I get a thumps up before leaving the visual confines. But I don't actually look at the running scores at all.

Do you think that I should start doing this?
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 09:34am
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Rut,

Assume you left visual confines and approved final score.
Assume book was accurate but scoreboard was inaccurate
What did you approve - book or scoreboard?
That has been answered. The scoreboard is for show. It is the book that you verify. So ... my question is - what exactly did you do when you "checked and verified"? The most important thing you are verifying is the score. How could you look at the book, see V 59, H 59, and say, "All right, great, lets shower!"
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Also, assume you did all you could do as as an official - i.e. checked and verified with table personnel that all was accurate before you left visual confines
See previous question. What exactly are you verifying if not the score?

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Then, after you had showered and dressed, the coach presents an accurate book that reflects that the score is tied.
It's out of your hands at this point. Prepare for some yelling. At you. Probably by several people.

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What does the cooach do?
Report that the officials verified that the score was tied and left anyway.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 09:58am
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What do you do as officials? What does the cooach do?
Well if you are not talking about right after the game has ended (which was not clear to me), then there is nothing you can do. Game over. Not your problem. I also do not care what a coach can or cannot do, I do not coach. My job is done and I am going home. Again this is why both scorers sit next to each other so that this can be prevented instantly. And if not then someone on the bench keeping track should know all kinds of things as it relates to score and fouls so something is not done incorrectly. I put this on the teams to let that happen.

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