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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 08:46am
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In the OP, the officials checked with the table both books matched and the scoreboard reflected what the books said. When the horn sounded and ended the game the officials looked at the table and nobody said anything. Once they leave the visual confines of the floor the score was 60-59 visitors. Then it says they were leaving the gym and were told the home book was wrong. There is nothing that can be done at this point. Whose to say it didn't get changed after the game was over?
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 08:51am
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In the OP, the officials checked with the table both books matched and the scoreboard reflected what the books said. When the horn sounded and ended the game the officials looked at the table and nobody said anything. Once they leave the visual confines of the floor the score was 60-59 visitors. Then it says they were leaving the gym and were told the home book was wrong. There is nothing that can be done at this point. Whose to say it didn't get changed after the game was over?
The OP says the scoreboard was wrong. The home book (assuming there wasn't a designation of some other book as official) cannot be wrong. It's been approved as final. The game ended in error but it's over. Sorry about your luck.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 08:56am
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I have seen this debated several times on this board and I've searched the archives and don't have a definitive answer.


Double overtime game.

At the 30 seconds remaining mark, officials verify everything matches with scoreboard, book and visiting team book.

At horn, officials give thumps up to table and run off court

Scoreboard reflects visiting team 60 home team 59

As officials are leaving gym, home team coach presents home book that indicates score is actually tied 59 all.

Assume there is no mistake in book.

What did we approve when we ran off the floor - scoreboard or book?

What do we do as officials?
Regardless of answer, what should coach do?
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The OP says the scoreboard was wrong. The home book (assuming there wasn't a designation of some other book as official) cannot be wrong. It's been approved as final. The game ended in error but it's over. Sorry about your luck.
No it doesn't. It says at 30 seconds, both, books and the scoreboard match. Assuming nothing changes in the last 30 seconds, when the horn sounds it still is 60-59 visitors.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 09:07am
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Why are we trusting the home coach, left alone with the score book following the game, is giving us accurate information? It just seems fishy.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 10:16am
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Why are we trusting the home coach, left alone with the score book following the game, is giving us accurate information? It just seems fishy.
Adam,

A good point. But, in our neck of the woods, coaches carry their books from one game to the next. Though never "alone" with these books during the games, there would be no reason for him to not have the book sometime after the game. Your point further illustrates/supports the "jurisdiction ends when you leave the visual confines" mantra.

The coach approached a crew in our association as they were leaving the building minutes after the game (he didn't have the book) and merely asked what was his recourse if the official book was determined to be correct

This happened Tuesday night and we still haven't heard any thing from our state office regarding any inquiry by the host school????

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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 10:35am
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I understand he'd have the book, but there's no reason to allow any coach to challenge like this after he's had access to the book off the court.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2012, 09:32am
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No it doesn't. It says at 30 seconds, both, books and the scoreboard match. Assuming nothing changes in the last 30 seconds, when the horn sounds it still is 60-59 visitors.
You're assuming facts not in evidence, namely that the score at 0:30 was 60-59. That was not stated.
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