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Approval of Final Score
I have seen this debated several times on this board and I've searched the archives and don't have a definitive answer.
Double overtime game. At the 30 seconds remaining mark, officials verify everything matches with scoreboard, book and visiting team book. At horn, officials give thumps up to table and run off court Scoreboard reflects visiting team 60 home team 59 As officials are leaving gym, home team coach presents home book that indicates score is actually tied 59 all. Assume there is no mistake in book. What did we approve when we ran off the floor - scoreboard or book? What do we do as officials? Regardless of answer, what should coach do? |
The scoreboard is for show, the scorebook is the official record of the game. Not sure how that would happen without someone saying something is wrong. That is after all why it is recommended that the scorer and the visiting team scorers should be sitting together to prevent this issue. I guess in that situation you continue the game, but why did they wait until the game was basically over to point this out?
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Rut,
Not basically, actually. The officials did all preventative measures. "Do we match"? Thumps at leaving. After game, home team presents book that indicates score is tied? How do we proceed? |
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Obviously if the book has the score tied, you continue if you cannot find a mistake. What else do you think should be done? I am just surprised that one of the teams did not say the scoreboard was wrong as they tend to do if you miss anything in my experience. I have had games where they think a 3 point shot was awarded and they make a big issue out of that one point in the middle of the 1st Quarter. I am just wondering why did it take that incident to make someone aware of the score in such a close game. Peace |
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"As officials are leaving gym, home team coach presents home book that indicates score is actually tied 59 all." 2-2-4: The jurisdiction of the officials is terminated and the final score has been approved when all officials leave the visual confines of the playing area. NOTE: The officials retain clerical authority over the contest through the completion of any reports, including those imposing disqualifications, which are responsive to actions occurring while the officials had jurisdiction. State associations may intercede in the event of unusual incidents that occur before, during or after the officials’ jurisdiction has ended or in the event that a contest is terminated prior to the conclusion of regulation play. So unless everyone had left you can still proceed with the game. Also the new clarification might allow the game to continue in a situation like this if the state chooses to get involved. Peace |
Rut,
Assume you left visual confines and approved final score. Assume book was accurate but scoreboard was inaccurate What did you approve - book or scoreboard? Also, assume you did all you could do as as an official - i.e. checked and verified with table personnel that all was accurate before you left visual confines Then, after you had showered and dressed, the coach presents an accurate book that reflects that the score is tied. What do you do as officials? What does the cooach do? |
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I'd say you're approving the score as you believed it to be...perhaps as was indicated on the board. If the book had something different, even though it is the official record, they must make it known before you're out of the court area. If not, it is too late.
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Camron,
I'm not disagreeing as your post certainly sounds logical. Is this the general opinion of most of the discussion board or has there always been a difference of opinion on this discussion board? I found a few threads in the archives and they didn't seem to have a final answer????? If the losing coach asked for advice, would you suggest he kick it up to your state bigwigs? |
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The scoreboard is a representation of the scorebook. If they don't match, I agree, it's up to the table to fix it or get the officials' attention before they leave. The officials are leaving because they believe the score is NOT tied. Once they're out of the room, the score is IN FACT not tied. :) As for advice to the losing coach: get a better scorekeeper. My state wouldn't do anything about this outcome, and I think few would. |
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If later it's discovered that the detailed notations don't add up to the running score? Too bad. |
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Seems to me the score is tied. Kick it up to the state, maybe they'll allow OT to be played, maybe they won't. Good luck.
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