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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 02:01pm
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I disagree that the distinction between "at" and "after" is relevant. If the clock shows 10:00, then the "10 minute time limit" specified by 10-1-1 and 10-1-2 has elapsed.




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I disagree. At least 10 minutes >= 10 minutes
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 02:09pm
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I disagree. At least 10 minutes >= 10 minutes
If it's discovered at 10:00, is it going to be corrected before 9:59?
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 02:12pm
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If it's discovered at 10:00, is it going to be corrected before 9:59?
Probably not...but that's not the question.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:15pm
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Probably not...but that's not the question.
I think we can feel rather confident that the correct answer to the question does not hinge on the difference between 10:00.000000000000 and the next femtosecond. The question is talking about things the official notices AT the 10:00 mark, when they are supposed to check these things, which is also the moment things must be set by. If they are wrong AT THAT MOMENT, they are wrong according to the rule that they are testing.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:20pm
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I think we can feel rather confident that the correct answer to the question does not hinge on the difference between 10:00.000000000000 and the next femtosecond. The question is talking about things the official notices AT the 10:00 mark, when they are supposed to check these things, which is also the moment things must be set by. If they are wrong AT THAT MOMENT, they are wrong according to the rule that they are testing.
So at the 10 minute mark Coach A tells you he wants #55 to start instead of #23 -- you are not going to allow it without penalty?
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:24pm
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I disagree. At least 10 minutes >= 10 minutes
Right. Now count down from 20:00.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:28pm
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Right. Now count down from 20:00.
Ok. Keep going... I'm a pudding head so I'm slow.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:03pm
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Ok. Keep going... I'm a pudding head so I'm slow.
If you count down the 10 minute time limit from 20:00, that's going to expire when it ticks from 10:01 to 10:00.

So if you're at 10:00, the time limit has already expired.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:58pm
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If you count down the 10 minute time limit from 20:00, that's going to expire when it ticks from 10:01 to 10:00.

So if you're at 10:00, the time limit has already expired.
Not necessarily.

And, not relevant to any (basketball) rule.
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Old Sat Dec 01, 2012, 08:07am
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Not necessarily.

And, not relevant to any (basketball) rule.
Yeah-huh.

(That's an invitation to offer an argument rather than a mere denial.)
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Old Sat Dec 01, 2012, 08:45am
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For most clocks, setting the clock to 20:00 is 20:00.000000

Thr first instance of changing from 10:01 to 10:00 is really 10:00.9999999

I think the relevance part is up to you to prove.
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