jritchie I would say they mean at the 10 minute mark, when your supposed to have the book finished, which would actually be after the 10 minute mark or however you want to say it, but both would mean the same thing. So I would go with B also.
Adam What's the rule reference for B? I need to look, but my first thought was it's just something that's not allowed.
tjones1 Adam wroteWhat's the rule reference for B? I need to look, but my first thought was it's just something that's not allowed. 10-1-2e
maven Adam wroteWhat's the rule reference for B? I need to look, but my first thought was it's just something that's not allowed. 10-1-2c If both 0 and 00 are listed in the book, then one of them must be changed in order to comply with 3-4-3d. Since you're past the 10 minute mark, changing a team member's or player's number is a team technical.
tjones1 maven wrote10-1-2c If both 0 and 00 are listed in the book, then one of them must be changed in order to comply with 3-4-3d. Since you're past the 10 minute mark, changing the a team member's or player's number is a team technical. That's where I have a problem. It doesn't say we are past the ten minute mark (then I would totally agree it's B); however, it says we are at the ten minute mark.
Nevadaref I would pick B, but you make a good point about "at" versus "after". I did not notice that detail. There is an art to test question writing!
tjones1 By the way... I sent this to NV late last night via e-mail. I appreciate your late response, NV!
Adam maven wrote10-1-2c If both 0 and 00 are listed in the book, then one of them must be changed in order to comply with 3-4-3d. Since you're past the 10 minute mark, changing a team member's or player's number is a team technical. Seems like too much of a stretch for a test question, IMO.
maven Nevadaref wroteI would pick B, but you make a good point about "at" versus "after". I did not notice that detail. There is an art to test question writing! I disagree that the distinction between "at" and "after" is relevant. If the clock shows 10:00, then the "10 minute time limit" specified by 10-1-1 and 10-1-2 has elapsed. Adam wroteSeems like too much of a stretch for a test question, IMO. +1 NFHS has been known to "stretch."
tjones1 maven wroteI disagree that the distinction between "at" and "after" is relevant. If the clock shows 10:00, then the "10 minute time limit" specified by 10-1-1 and 10-1-2 has elapsed. +1 NFHS has been known to "stretch." I disagree. At least 10 minutes >= 10 minutes
Eastshire tjones1 wroteI disagree. At least 10 minutes >= 10 minutes If it's discovered at 10:00, is it going to be corrected before 9:59?
tjones1 Eastshire wroteIf it's discovered at 10:00, is it going to be corrected before 9:59? Probably not...but that's not the question. 🙂
MD Longhorn tjones1 wroteProbably not...but that's not the question. 🙂 I think we can feel rather confident that the correct answer to the question does not hinge on the difference between 10:00.000000000000 and the next femtosecond. The question is talking about things the official notices AT the 10:00 mark, when they are supposed to check these things, which is also the moment things must be set by. If they are wrong AT THAT MOMENT, they are wrong according to the rule that they are testing.
tjones1 MD Longhorn wroteI think we can feel rather confident that the correct answer to the question does not hinge on the difference between 10:00.000000000000 and the next femtosecond. The question is talking about things the official notices AT the 10:00 mark, when they are supposed to check these things, which is also the moment things must be set by. If they are wrong AT THAT MOMENT, they are wrong according to the rule that they are testing. So at the 10 minute mark Coach A tells you he wants #55 to start instead of #23 -- you are not going to allow it without penalty?
tjones1 maven wroteRight. Now count down from 20:00. Ok. 😕 Keep going... I'm a pudding head so I'm slow. 😉
maven tjones1 wroteOk. 😕 Keep going... I'm a pudding head so I'm slow. 😉 If you count down the 10 minute time limit from 20:00, that's going to expire when it ticks from 10:01 to 10:00. So if you're at 10:00, the time limit has already expired.
bob jenkins maven wroteIf you count down the 10 minute time limit from 20:00, that's going to expire when it ticks from 10:01 to 10:00. So if you're at 10:00, the time limit has already expired. Not necessarily. And, not relevant to any (basketball) rule.
maven bob jenkins wroteNot necessarily. And, not relevant to any (basketball) rule. Yeah-huh. (That's an invitation to offer an argument rather than a mere denial.)
bob jenkins For most clocks, setting the clock to 20:00 is 20:00.000000 Thr first instance of changing from 10:01 to 10:00 is really 10:00.9999999 I think the relevance part is up to you to prove.