Cannot Sub for Guy who Dunks in Pregame?

[Smitty]

Maybe this will be unpopular, but I think sometimes people get too caught up in the exact wording of the rules to understand the spirit of the rules. If the coach wants to sit down a starter, who is likely a better player than the kid who will be subbed in, because this kid was an a$$hat and hung on the rim pregame, to teach the kid a lesson, I'm allowing it. Then. Not after the first free throw. Not to mention this kid bought his coach a seatbelt for the game. Let him sit right next to the coach. You can get all caught up in the rules if you like. Carry on...

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Smitty

You can get all caught up in the rules if you like. Carry on...

I like.
You make this sound bad.
I am well aware of the measures of discretion available in this and many other situations that arise. But before varying from a rule, is it not good to know what the rule actually is for which a variance is granted? Otherwise we'd all just go with our "feelings." It's always been frustrating to me to observe officials around here make game decisions based on their perceived "spirit of the rules" when they have no clue what the rules involved even are in those situations.

(BTW, the more veteran partner in the original situation last night did, in fact, allow the coach to sub for the rim-grabber. The newer official involved is simply wondering what the rule is regarding the sitch.)

Now, on with my learning so I can have a basis for granting discretion when it's wise!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Maybe this will be unpopular, but I think sometimes people get too caught up in the exact wording of the rules to understand the spirit of the rules. If the coach wants to sit down a starter, who is likely a better player than the kid who will be subbed in, because this kid was an a$$hat and hung on the rim pregame, to teach the kid a lesson, I'm allowing it. Then. Not after the first free throw. Not to mention this kid bought his coach a seatbelt for the game. Let him sit right next to the coach. You can get all caught up in the rules if you like. Carry on...

Funny, I had this exact thing happen in a game and the coach had no problem bringing in a sub after the first free throw.

I don't see why I need to get all caught up in "teaching the kid a lesson".

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Funny, I had this exact thing happen in a game and the coach had no problem bringing in a sub after the first free throw.

I don't see why I need to get all caught up in "teaching the kid a lesson".

Good for you. I said it might be unpopular. Don't hurt yourself rolling your eyes. I really don't think what I said is that ridiculous in this scenario. If you prefer to show the coach who's boss and intervene in the lesson, feel free, under the rules.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Good for you. I said it might be unpopular. Don't hurt yourself rolling your eyes. I really don't think what I said is that ridiculous in this scenario. If you prefer to show the coach who's boss and intervene in the lesson, feel free, under the rules.

You must have some sort of complex if you're scared to enforce the rules without thinking there will be some sort of drama involved.

Coach: I want to pull my knucklehead out the starting line-up for that stupid stunt.

Me: No problem coach, you can do so as soon as we shoot the first free throw.

Coach: Thanks.

Maybe you just lack the requisite communications skills to pull off such a daunting task.

(do I need to include some sort of smiley face with this post so I don't seem bossy?)

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You must have some sort of complex if you're scared to enforce the rules without thinking there will be some sort of drama involved.

Coach: I want to pull my knucklehead out the starting line-up for that stupid stunt.

Me: No problem coach, you can do so as soon as we shoot the first free throw.

Coach: Thanks.

Maybe you just lack the requisite communications skills to pull off such a daunting task.

(do I need to include some sort of smiley face with this post so I don't seem bossy?)

So clever you are. I am certain this conversation would go exactly as you typed it. Bravo. You win. Feel better?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Smitty

So clever you are. I am certain this conversation would go exactly as you typed it. Bravo. You win. Feel better?

That's how the conversation did go. If you would have read instead of looking for a fight you would have seen that I said I've had this situation exactly once.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

That's how the conversation did go. If you would have read instead of looking for a fight you would have seen that I said I've had this situation exactly once.

Oh then I stand corrected. You had this scenario exactly once and that's how the conversation went, so therefore that's how it would go everywhere. I didn't realize I was in the presence of such greatness. My apologies.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If you would have read instead of looking for a fight

Because rolling your eyes is a compliment where you come from?