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Old Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:02pm
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I hope that FIBA rules are different on this play (which I don't think they are) cause that's a call that one of the officials has to make.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:13pm
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"Shooting" at own basket????
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:17am
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"Shooting" at own basket????
Darn it, I knew I shouldn't post when I'm in a hurry. You are all correct, they are "shooting" at the opponent's basket. Thanks for keeping me honest!

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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:28am
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I hope that FIBA rules are different on this play (which I don't think they are) cause that's a call that one of the officials has to make.
One thing FIBA does better than their North American counterparts is confusing people with their definition of "own" basket. That has to be the dumbest ****ing rule NFHS has.


16.2.2 If a player accidentally scores a field goal in his team’s own basket, the goal
counts two (2) points and shall be recorded as having been scored by the captain of
the opposing team on the playing court.
16.2.3 If a player deliberately scores a field goal in his team’s own basket, it is a violation
and the goal does not count.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:56am
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One thing FIBA does better than their North American counterparts is confusing people with their definition of "own" basket. That has to be the dumbest ****ing rule NFHS has.


16.2.2 If a player accidentally scores a field goal in his team’s own basket, the goal
counts two (2) points and shall be recorded as having been scored by the captain of
the opposing team on the playing court.
16.2.3 If a player deliberately scores a field goal in his team’s own basket, it is a violation
and the goal does not count.
I don't see how distinguishing it either way is any better then the other. It also sounds like FIBA took a page out of the NBA rule book in that it's also a violation to attempt a field goal at the wrong basket.
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Old Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:57pm
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I don't see how distinguishing it either way is any better then the other. It also sounds like FIBA took a page out of the NBA rule book in that it's also a violation to attempt a field goal at the wrong basket.

Because NFHS is the only sport in the world where you don't defend your own goal.
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Old Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:55pm
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Because NFHS is the only sport in the world where you don't defend your own goal.
I'm sure you meant level...and under NCAA and NBA rules, one scores at their basket. In the basketball world, it would seem as though FIBA is "backwards"...not that it even matters.
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Old Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:17pm
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no one believes me.....

2 scrimmages, a dozen officials (including an NCAA official).... none would call any violation
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Old Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:02pm
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And when you presumably pulled out your case book and showed them the error of their ways, what did they say?
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I don't see how distinguishing it either way is any better then the other. It also sounds like FIBA took a page out of the NBA rule book in that it's also a violation to attempt a field goal at the wrong basket.
The only way to know is to compare the histories and rationales within each code.
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