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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 12:59pm
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Those on the circle may leave the circle at any time....no restriction.
IDK why we interpret "onto" as any & all movement for all players...

Had a partner (U) call a violation during my toss because a player in the b/c walked toward his coach :-(
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 01:30pm
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I used to get (mildly) annoyed by this. Now, i just assume pretend that the official who says this is talking to the jumpers -- to whom it does (reasonably) apply.
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 01:51pm
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I used to get (mildly) annoyed by this. Now, i just assume pretend that the official who says this is talking to the jumpers -- to whom it does (reasonably) apply.
I have been known to say this and, well, I do say it to the jumpers. I also tell them not to steal it and then I launch it up when neither of them is ready. Just kidding.

The players around the circle, those are not my responsibility. I'm too busy trying not to get elbowed in the face.
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I have said, "Wait until the ball is tipped" but I am more talking to the jumpers. As far as I am concerned, this is more on the teams to know the rules. And I only say this as the Referee. Never thought of the other players honestly.

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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 02:15pm
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Does everyone announce direction and color? It is common in my area but I am not sure why.

As the R, I confirm with captains that their team is on the floor and ready to go. Then I whistle and toss. Probably less than 2 seconds between tweet and toss. Not much time to get in trouble. As a U, I keep my mouth shut and hope nothing blows up.

Personally, I think a jump ball is a terrible way to get a great start to a game but a great way to get a terrible start to a game.
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 02:22pm
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I think a jump ball is a terrible way to get a great start to a game but a great way to get a terrible start to a game.
Scratch85: You had better delete your statement above before Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. sees it, or you're going to be getting a good scolding.
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 02:25pm
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Does everyone announce direction and color? It is common in my area but I am not sure why.

As the R, I confirm with captains that their team is on the floor and ready to go. Then I whistle and toss. Probably less than 2 seconds between tweet and toss. Not much time to get in trouble. As a U, I keep my mouth shut and hope nothing blows up.

Personally, I think a jump ball is a terrible way to get a great start to a game but a great way to get a terrible start to a game.
I do if for no other reason to make sure I am have the teams going in the right direction as the Referee. I tend to look at the benches and hoping I will pick up on misdirection of the players. The last thing I want to do is start a game with teams going in the wrong direction.

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Does everyone announce direction and color? It is common in my area but I am not sure why.
I do. As I announce I glance over at the benches to be sure that the teams are going in to the correct direction (opposite benches). This little habit of mine, and it's just mine, not my local board's, has saved me from an embarrassing start in several Catholic middle school games, and in a few varsity high school games over the years. If I start he game going in the wrong direction, the coaches, and fans, will have more "ammunition", if you know what I mean.
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I have said, "Wait until the ball is tipped" but I am more talking to the jumpers.
Will you elucidate just what the jumpers are "waiting for the ball to be tipped for?"

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Does everyone announce direction and color? It is common in my area but I am not sure why.
It's in the book, but I dont use it. I was scolded one summer at a camp, the clinician said 1. it made me look so HS & 2. if they dont know which way they are going by now...

Ever since then I just make sure they're lined up properly.
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 02:33pm
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Will you elucidate just what the jumpers are "waiting for the ball to be tipped for?"
Well played tref, well played.

Where is it in the book? Like I said, most in my area do it but I didn't think it was in the manuals anywhere.
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Will you elucidate just what the jumpers are "waiting for the ball to be tipped for?
I'm at work, with no books, but I'll venture a guess. The jumpers are waiting for the ball to be tipped before they leave the jump ball circle. I don't believe that they can leave on the toss, but I'm not sure.
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 02:41pm
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Will you elucidate just what the jumpers are "waiting for the ball to be tipped for?"
Rule 6-3-7 says Neither jumper shall:

a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.
b. Leave the center restraining circle until the ball has been touched.
c. Catch the jump ball.
d. Touch the ball more than twice.

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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 02:55pm
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It's in the book, but I dont use it. I was scolded one summer at a camp, the clinician said 1. it made me look so HS & 2. if they dont know which way they are going by now...

Ever since then I just make sure they're lined up properly.

I see what you did there.

Interesting. I don't see it as bad to "look high school," but I'm not trying out for the RMAC, so....

I do it for the reasons Rut stated. The habit has saved me a poor start on more than one occasion, particularly in off season ball.

I don't check with captains, though, so I can't be too judgy.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 04:13am
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Does everyone announce direction and color? It is common in my area but I am not sure why.

As the R, I confirm with captains that their team is on the floor and ready to go. Then I whistle and toss. Probably less than 2 seconds between tweet and toss. Not much time to get in trouble. As a U, I keep my mouth shut and hope nothing blows up.

Personally, I think a jump ball is a terrible way to get a great start to a game but a great way to get a terrible start to a game.

IAABO requires this to be announced.

FIBA does not.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 08:23am
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IAABO requires this to be announced.

FIBA does not.
Yet many FIBA officials do it just the same. I don't.
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