Interrupted Dribble

[rpirtle]

Here's a question that was submitted on another board I frequent. I am not sure whether this action is legal or not. Could use everyone's help. Thanks...in advance...

Play: A1 started a legal dribble. During the dribble the ball bounces off A1 and rolls toward A2. The ball touches A2. Before A2 can react and pick up the loose ball, A1 gains possession of the ball with both hands and restarts the dribble.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by rpirtle

Here's a question that was submitted on another board I frequent. I am not sure whether this action is legal or not. Could use everyone's help. Thanks...in advance...

Play: A1 started a legal dribble. During the dribble the ball bounces off A1 and rolls toward A2. The ball touches A2. Before A2 can react and pick up the loose ball, A1 gains possession of the ball with both hands and restarts the dribble.

9-5-3 relevant here? If so, did A2's touch, in effect, end A1's interrupted dribble?

Just off the top of my head...

[Adam]

If it hits A2 before A1 picks it up, I'm letting it go.

[APG]

Play on

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rpirtle

Here's a question that was submitted on another board I frequent. I am not sure whether this action is legal or not. Could use everyone's help. Thanks...in advance...

Play: A1 started a legal dribble. During the dribble the ball bounces off A1 and rolls toward A2. The ball touches A2. Before A2 can react and pick up the loose ball, A1 gains possession of the ball with both hands and restarts the dribble.

When does a dribble end?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

When does a dribble end?

4-15-4: The dribble ends when:
a. The dribbler catches or causes the ball to come to rest in one or both
hands.
b. The dribbler palms/carries the ball by allowing it to come to rest in one or
both hands.
c. The dribbler simultaneously touches the ball with both hands.
d. The ball touches or is touched by an opponent and causes the dribbler to
lose control.
e. The ball becomes dead.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

When does a dribble end?

Isn't 9-5 more germane to the situation?

A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended,
unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART. 1 A try for field goal.
ART. 2 A touch by an opponent.
ART. 3 A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by,
another player.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Isn't 9-5 more germane to the situation?

A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended,
unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART. 1 A try for field goal.
ART. 2 A touch by an opponent.
ART. 3 A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by,
another player.

Golly, where did I see 9-5-3 mentioned before?

( Nice use of the word "germane", though. )

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Golly, where did I see 9-5-3 mentioned before?

( Nice use of the word "germane", though. )

Technically, it doesn't fit. The OP is an interrupted dribble, not a fumble.

I think the intent is clear, however.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Golly, where did I see 9-5-3 mentioned before?

Hey, you only cited the rule, I quoted the rule.

And "germane" trumps "relevent" everytime.

[Zoochy]

Double Dribble violation. Even if the ball was touched by an opponent it is still a violation. 4-15-4d only applies if the opponent causes the dibbler to lose control. The OP states the dribbler causes the loss of control.

4-15-4: The dribble ends when:
a. The dribbler catches or causes the ball to come to rest in one or both
hands.
b. The dribbler palms/carries the ball by allowing it to come to rest in one or
both hands.
c. The dribbler simultaneously touches the ball with both hands.
d. The ball touches or is touched by an opponent and causes the dribbler to
lose control.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

Double Dribble violation. Even if the ball was touched by an opponent it is still a violation. 4-15-4d only applies if the opponent causes the dibbler to lose control. The OP states the dribbler causes the loss of control.

4-15-4: The dribble ends when:
a. The dribbler catches or causes the ball to come to rest in one or both
hands.
b. The dribbler palms/carries the ball by allowing it to come to rest in one or
both hands.
c. The dribbler simultaneously touches the ball with both hands.
d. The ball touches or is touched by an opponent and causes the dribbler to
lose control.

Try 9-5-3

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Try 9-5-3

A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of: A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player.

[gslefeb]

9-5-3 does not fit if A1's actions are deemed an interrupted dribble.

This rule allows A1 to dribble a second time, if AFTER ending their initial dribble the ball is fumbled...

In the OP, the ball was touched prior to the dribble ending. 4-15-4

Did A2's touching change the A1's interrupted dribble, into a fumble? As it was not a momentary loss of control (4-15-5)? If it is ruled a fumble, then the dribble has ended and 9-5-3 applies.

Or when A2 touches the ball, can that be considered a pass? Thus 9-5-3 allows a second dribble.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rpirtle

During the dribble the ball bounces off A1 and rolls.

4-21: A fumble is the accidental loss of player control when the ball unintentionally drops or slips from a player’s grasp

Sure sounds like A1 fumbled to me.