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rpirtle Mon Sep 10, 2012 04:41pm

Interrupted Dribble
 
Here's a question that was submitted on another board I frequent. I am not sure whether this action is legal or not. Could use everyone's help. Thanks...in advance...

Play: A1 started a legal dribble. During the dribble the ball bounces off A1 and rolls toward A2. The ball touches A2. Before A2 can react and pick up the loose ball, A1 gains possession of the ball with both hands and restarts the dribble.

:confused:

Freddy Mon Sep 10, 2012 04:49pm

I'll bite...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rpirtle (Post 854027)
Here's a question that was submitted on another board I frequent. I am not sure whether this action is legal or not. Could use everyone's help. Thanks...in advance...

Play: A1 started a legal dribble. During the dribble the ball bounces off A1 and rolls toward A2. The ball touches A2. Before A2 can react and pick up the loose ball, A1 gains possession of the ball with both hands and restarts the dribble.

:confused:

9-5-3 relevant here? If so, did A2's touch, in effect, end A1's interrupted dribble?

Just off the top of my head...

Adam Mon Sep 10, 2012 04:56pm

If it hits A2 before A1 picks it up, I'm letting it go.

APG Mon Sep 10, 2012 05:14pm

Play on

BktBallRef Mon Sep 10, 2012 06:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpirtle (Post 854027)
Here's a question that was submitted on another board I frequent. I am not sure whether this action is legal or not. Could use everyone's help. Thanks...in advance...

Play: A1 started a legal dribble. During the dribble the ball bounces off A1 and rolls toward A2. The ball touches A2. Before A2 can react and pick up the loose ball, A1 gains possession of the ball with both hands and restarts the dribble.

:confused:

When does a dribble end?

BillyMac Mon Sep 10, 2012 06:58pm

Pick Me, Pick Me, Pick Me ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 854041)
When does a dribble end?

4-15-4: The dribble ends when:
a. The dribbler catches or causes the ball to come to rest in one or both
hands.
b. The dribbler palms/carries the ball by allowing it to come to rest in one or
both hands.
c. The dribbler simultaneously touches the ball with both hands.
d. The ball touches or is touched by an opponent and causes the dribbler to
lose control.
e. The ball becomes dead.

BillyMac Mon Sep 10, 2012 07:01pm

No Violation ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 854041)
When does a dribble end?

Isn't 9-5 more germane to the situation?

A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended,
unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART. 1 A try for field goal.
ART. 2 A touch by an opponent.
ART. 3 A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by,
another player.

Freddy Mon Sep 10, 2012 08:31pm

Hey No Cuts, I Was First . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 854047)
Isn't 9-5 more germane to the situation?

A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended,
unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART. 1 A try for field goal.
ART. 2 A touch by an opponent.
ART. 3 A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by,
another player.

Golly, where did I see 9-5-3 mentioned before? :cool:

( Nice use of the word "germane", though. :p )

Adam Mon Sep 10, 2012 08:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 854056)
Golly, where did I see 9-5-3 mentioned before? :cool:

( Nice use of the word "germane", though. :p )

Technically, it doesn't fit. The OP is an interrupted dribble, not a fumble.

I think the intent is clear, however.

BillyMac Mon Sep 10, 2012 08:44pm

I Often Quote Myself. It Adds Spice To My Conversation (George Bernard Shaw) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 854056)
Golly, where did I see 9-5-3 mentioned before?

Hey, you only cited the rule, I quoted the rule.

And "germane" trumps "relevent" everytime.

Zoochy Fri Sep 14, 2012 02:46pm

Double Dribble violation. Even if the ball was touched by an opponent it is still a violation. 4-15-4d only applies if the opponent causes the dibbler to lose control. The OP states the dribbler causes the loss of control.

4-15-4: The dribble ends when:
a. The dribbler catches or causes the ball to come to rest in one or both
hands.
b. The dribbler palms/carries the ball by allowing it to come to rest in one or
both hands.
c. The dribbler simultaneously touches the ball with both hands.
d. The ball touches or is touched by an opponent and causes the dribbler to
lose control.

Adam Fri Sep 14, 2012 03:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 854520)
Double Dribble violation. Even if the ball was touched by an opponent it is still a violation. 4-15-4d only applies if the opponent causes the dibbler to lose control. The OP states the dribbler causes the loss of control.

4-15-4: The dribble ends when:
a. The dribbler catches or causes the ball to come to rest in one or both
hands.
b. The dribbler palms/carries the ball by allowing it to come to rest in one or
both hands.
c. The dribbler simultaneously touches the ball with both hands.
d. The ball touches or is touched by an opponent and causes the dribbler to
lose control.

Try 9-5-3

BillyMac Fri Sep 14, 2012 04:41pm

It's Déjà Vu All Over Again (Yogi Berra) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 854538)
Try 9-5-3

A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of: A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player.

gslefeb Fri Sep 14, 2012 06:13pm

9-5-3
 
9-5-3 does not fit if A1's actions are deemed an interrupted dribble.

This rule allows A1 to dribble a second time, if AFTER ending their initial dribble the ball is fumbled...

In the OP, the ball was touched prior to the dribble ending. 4-15-4

Did A2's touching change the A1's interrupted dribble, into a fumble? As it was not a momentary loss of control (4-15-5)? If it is ruled a fumble, then the dribble has ended and 9-5-3 applies.

Or when A2 touches the ball, can that be considered a pass? Thus 9-5-3 allows a second dribble.

BillyMac Fri Sep 14, 2012 06:23pm

Fumble, First Down ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rpirtle (Post 854027)
During the dribble the ball bounces off A1 and rolls.

4-21: A fumble is the accidental loss of player control when the ball unintentionally drops or slips from a player’s grasp

Sure sounds like A1 fumbled to me.


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