DoG on Inbound throw-in

[Multiple Sports]

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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BigT

Three great replies.

I have been trying to talk to the defender before I had off the ball. Especially when I notice early on how aggressive the inbound defense is.

I like all these ideas.

I will communicate with the defender and remind the offense to back off the line. I will focus on the players. Yet if doing that and out of the corner of my eye I see clear crossing over the plane I will blow it and give the warning. Normally after this I tell the defense "I dont want to call the T please give them space" Is that to forward. Should it be my normal dont break the plane? I have tried to only call the ones that were beyond 3-6 inches.

Again thanks for the responses.

I have said something of that sort so they realize how serious the penalty is if they do more than just cross the line. Then again this is something usually older players do not do as much as younger players. But I probably always say something before throwing the ball in when there is pressure on the thrower. It takes a second to not have a bigger problem later.

Peace

[stripes]

Originally Posted by BigT

In 1k games my first 2.5 years of officiating I have called 20 DoG for kids reaching heavily through the inbound plane after trying to talk them back. I have also watched a lot of games. My partners and in those other games I have only seen this DoG called a few times. My personality is this gives the defense an advantage and well they aren't heading the warning and to actually call it.

I am beginning to wonder if a lot of officials let them get away with moderate infringement because they dont want to have to stop the game and go over and report it because it seems embarrassing or not not severe enough to stop a game.

I dont want to slow my climb up the ladder by being to picky on this call and the one where kids hit the line on free throw attempts.

I need some advice and look forward to it today. Thanks in advance.

Big T, in my 19 years of officiating (mostly in the SLC area), I haven't called this anywhere near 20 times. Talk them out of the DoG and call only what you HAVE to.

Remember, when in Rome...

Don't stand out for the wrong reason.

[Sharpshooternes]

So just a couple questions for us newer officials.
Who shoots the technical or intentional free throws after contact of the ball/player OOB? The player or the team? Does it matter in this case whether it is INT or Tech?

Next question, after the shooting of the FTs, where is the ball inbounded?
Specifically from this scenario: Team A is inbounding under their own basket. B1 breaks the plane and strikes the ball while stil in A1s hand. Technical foul is called. Seems like a disadvantage to me to have A inbound the ball form half court whenthey had it under the basket to start with.
Thanks

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

So just a couple questions for us newer officials.
Who shoots the technical or intentional free throws after contact of the ball/player OOB? The player or the team? Does it matter in this case whether it is INT or Tech?

The rule does not change for this situation, it is just like any other situations. Intentional Fouls are always shot by the person fouled unless injured or disqualified for some reason. Technical Fouls are always shot by anyone that is available on the team to shoot the FTs.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Next question, after the shooting of the FTs, where is the ball inbounded?
Specifically from this scenario: Team A is inbounding under their own basket. B1 breaks the plane and strikes the ball while stil in A1s hand. Technical foul is called. Seems like a disadvantage to me to have A inbound the ball form half court whenthey had it under the basket to start with.
Thanks

Again, what does the rule say? Who cares what it might be more advantageous or what is fair? All Technical Fouls throw-ins are administered at the division line, opposite the table. Is it advantageous to now have another Technical Foul of any kind now will disqualify a player or coach from the game? It does not matter what is more advantageous you or I think, the rule is the rule for a reason. At least an Intentional Foul is just like another foul.

Peace

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The rule does not change for this situation, it is just like any other situations. Intentional Fouls are always shot by the person fouled unless injured or disqualified for some reason. Technical Fouls are always shot by anyone that is available on the team to shoot the FTs.



Again, what does the rule say? Who cares what it might be more advantageous or what is fair? All Technical Fouls throw-ins are administered at the division line, opposite the table. Is it advantageous to now have another Technical Foul of any kind now will disqualify a player or coach from the game? It does not matter what is more advantageous you or I think, the rule is the rule for a reason. At least an Intentional Foul is just like another foul.

Peace

That is prety much what I thought. Just wanted verification. Thanks again.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

That is prety much what I thought. Just wanted verification. Thanks again.

Moral of the story, do not overthink rules. Most rules are pretty simple if you actually think of them through. And it is rather basic what we do in IF and TF situations if you just take a breathe and think of what you do.

Now this should not be a rule you ever screw up.

Peace

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by BigT

In 1k games my first 2.5 years of officiating I have called 20 DoG for kids reaching heavily through the inbound plane after trying to talk them back.

A lot of good advise from others here...If I may, I would add...

"Don't make this your best call!"

Of course, I would say this about 3 seconds in the key also...

"Don't make this your best call!"

Notice...I did not say "don't call it"...just "don't make it your best call!"