Water on the court...

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by tref

Rule reference please?

The second situation is a 4-47 DoG situation, for which 10-1-5 prescribes the penalty.

The first situation shouldn't be confused with the precise prerequisites for a 4-47 DoG situation, methinks --sorry BMac . The fact that this did not occur after a timeout is significant.
The "water on the court" episode in the OP seems to fit best under 10-1-5, "and similar acts:". However, since it did not occur after a time-out, ala 4-47, no written warning is necessary for a team technical to be given, if indeed that is what best suits the situation.

That 4-47 DoG and its oft-confused 4-38 ROP is detailed in an article found here (written for an association rules meeting), about which you are invited to make constructive comment:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...TcxOGEyYmQ3ODk

[tref]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Best not to allow this to be confused with the precise prerequisites for a 4-47 situation, methinks.
The "water on the court" esisode in the given situation seems to fit best under 10-1-5, "and similar acts:". However, since it did not occur after a time-out, ala 4-47, no written warning is necessary for a team technical to be given, if indeed that is what best suits the situation.

IDK Freddy, they get a pass in my games. Just wipe it up, coach.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by tref

IDK Freddy, they get a pass in my games. Just wipe it up, coach.

I guess the original question wasn't "would you pass on this?", but "where is it in the rulebook?"

Does "IDK" stand for "I Don't Know"?

[tref]

Originally Posted by Freddy

I guess the original question wasn't "would you pass on this?", but "where is it in the rulebook?"

Does "IDK" stands for "I Don't Know"?

Yesssir & I'm not sure the intent & purpose of the rule quite fits this situation.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by tref

Yesssir & I'm not sure the intent & purpose of the rule quite fits this situation.

Cocky Response which I Won't Give: Well, I do know and am sure the intent & purpose of the rule fits this situation.

More Tactful and Reasonable Response: I guess it seems wise to always know what the rule is so as to be fully aware of what one is passing on when making a judicious decision to do so, which is sometimes fits the situation best.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Cocky Response which I Won't Give: Well, I do know and am sure the intent & purpose of the rule fits this situation.

More Tactful and Reasonable Response: I guess it seems wise to always know what the rule is so as to be fully aware of what one is passing on when making a judicious decision to do so, which is sometimes fits the situation best.

Okay, I guess I'll rule that way when I see a rule or caseplay that says, when a player spills water on the floor during a FT the officials shall assess a T.

Until then, wipe it up coach.

[BigT]

ART. 5 . . . Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes
the following and similar acts:

I am getting ready to bounce the ball to the free-thrower and notice the kid getting a drink. He is not ready to play preventing the game from going on. That is why its illegal? That makes sense to me. If he spills it is a technical?

How rough you want to be on a coach for allowing a mess to be made during a 30 second time out is up to you? It could be a warning, DoG, or technical depending?

I have developed a lot of grey becoming an official. I am wondering if they are even allowed to bring water onto the court during a 30 second time out or ever just for the purpose of delaying the game due to a mess. Maybe you let them hang themselves and give a quick DoG for being stupid. Then how to do phrase a T could happen?

Thanks for the responses and help.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

IDK Freddy, they get a pass in my games. Just wipe it up, coach.

I think Freddy is right. You don't need to use a warning. But I would give him one informal warning. Players are expected to drink during time outs. If they want to drink during play, they should be more careful about spilling.