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Old Thu Sep 06, 2012, 01:33pm
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I guess the original question wasn't "would you pass on this?", but "where is it in the rulebook?"

Does "IDK" stands for "I Don't Know"?
Yesssir & I'm not sure the intent & purpose of the rule quite fits this situation.
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Old Thu Sep 06, 2012, 01:51pm
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Yesssir & I'm not sure the intent & purpose of the rule quite fits this situation.
Cocky Response which I Won't Give: Well, I do know and am sure the intent & purpose of the rule fits this situation.

More Tactful and Reasonable Response: I guess it seems wise to always know what the rule is so as to be fully aware of what one is passing on when making a judicious decision to do so, which is sometimes fits the situation best.
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Old Thu Sep 06, 2012, 01:57pm
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Cocky Response which I Won't Give: Well, I do know and am sure the intent & purpose of the rule fits this situation.

More Tactful and Reasonable Response: I guess it seems wise to always know what the rule is so as to be fully aware of what one is passing on when making a judicious decision to do so, which is sometimes fits the situation best.
Okay, I guess I'll rule that way when I see a rule or caseplay that says, when a player spills water on the floor during a FT the officials shall assess a T.

Until then, wipe it up coach.
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Old Thu Sep 06, 2012, 02:11pm
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ART. 5 . . . Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes
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I am getting ready to bounce the ball to the free-thrower and notice the kid getting a drink. He is not ready to play preventing the game from going on. That is why its illegal? That makes sense to me. If he spills it is a technical?

How rough you want to be on a coach for allowing a mess to be made during a 30 second time out is up to you? It could be a warning, DoG, or technical depending?

I have developed a lot of grey becoming an official. I am wondering if they are even allowed to bring water onto the court during a 30 second time out or ever just for the purpose of delaying the game due to a mess. Maybe you let them hang themselves and give a quick DoG for being stupid. Then how to do phrase a T could happen?

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Old Thu Sep 06, 2012, 02:59pm
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ART. 5 . . . Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes
the following and similar acts:

I am getting ready to bounce the ball to the free-thrower and notice the kid getting a drink. He is not ready to play preventing the game from going on. That is why its illegal? That makes sense to me. If he spills it is a technical?
If a kid wants to drink water off to the side, he's not preventing the anything from happening. It becomes an issue if you have to delay the game because water has been spilled on the court. If the spillage and subsequent delay are coming out of a timeout, then a delay of game warning is appropriate. If not, by the strictest of reading, a technical foul could be issued. This would be something I'd see check to see what is "done in Rome."


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How rough you want to be on a coach for allowing a mess to be made during a 30 second time out is up to you? It could be a warning, DoG, or technical depending?

I have developed a lot of grey becoming an official. I am wondering if they are even allowed to bring water onto the court during a 30 second time out or ever just for the purpose of delaying the game due to a mess. Maybe you let them hang themselves and give a quick DoG for being stupid. Then how to do phrase a T could happen?

Thanks for the responses and help.
Assuming it's not something that can be cleaned up quickly, I'll hit the team with a delay of game warning. There's nothing that prohibits water being drunk on the court during a timeout but they run a risk of being hit with a DOG/or T (if they've already had a DOG warning). I can honestly say, I've called only one DOG warning for water on the court and it was something that couldn't be cleaned up quickly.
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Oops!

Verify if this is relevant to the one point in the original question:

Coach: With his team needing a break and no time outs remaining, calls a player over to the bench during a free throw to talk to him and give him some water. Oops , the water spilled all over the floor. "Hey ref, give us time to clean this up over here."

Ref: "Okay, go ahead."

Coach: Has time now to gather a couple of players to give them needed instructions for the waning minutes of the game.

Other Coach : "Hey, what the . . . ? ? ?"

Naw, I guess if any of us observed malicious intent, we'd take care of it accordingly. This probably isn't so relevant after all. Though it's not above one or two coaches around here.
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