Iguodala blocks his own dunk

[MD Longhorn]

No signal necessary - the fact that they played on, and Arg did not take the ball out of bounds to bring it in - tells you this was simply a missed basket. There's no signal for missed basket.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

No signal necessary - the fact that they played on, and Arg did not take the ball out of bounds to bring it in - tells you this was simply a missed basket. There's no signal for missed basket.

Oh, they played on after this? Without a throwin after a made basket? Or without a BI violation called? Is that a FIFA thing?
In NFHS, either way a dead ball would result, right? Either...
A) ...the opponents are awarded a throwin after a made basket along the endline after a successful throw, which just happened to hit the shooter after passing through the basket (5-1-1),
or
B) ...the dunker commits basket interence having touched the ball while it is within the basket (4-6-1)
Am I on the right track here, Fed-wise?
And is FIFA different, whereby a "play on" is the result to this play?
Who is John Galt?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Oh, they played on after this? Without a throwin after a made basket? Or without a BI violation called? Is that a FIFA thing?
In NFHS, either way a dead ball would result, right? Either...
A) ...the opponents are awarded a throwin after a made basket along the endline after a successful throw, which just happened to hit the shooter after passing through the basket (5-1-1),
or
B) ...the dunker commits basket interence having touched the ball while it is within the basket (4-6-1)
Am I on the right track here, Fed-wise?
And is FIFA different, whereby a "play on" is the result to this play?
Who is John Galt?

No ... this was NOT a made basket, and this was NOT basket interference. This, ugly as it was, was just a miss.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

No ... this was NOT a made basket, and this was NOT basket interference. This, ugly as it was, was just a miss.

By rule, or by the fact that they played on?
(not trying to be difficult; just trying to understand)

[Raymond]

The ball went completely through and cleared the net and then bounced back through the ring. Should have been a made basket.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The ball went completely through and cleared the net and then bounced back through the ring. Should have been a made basket.

I'd guess you're about 70% correct, but I slowed the thing down and frame by frame I could not clearly and positively see the ball not contacting the net at any moment before it started coming back up.

At full speed not only is this not 100% clear, but it's also not 100% clear it hit Iguodala, depending on the angle the referee had (and frankly how much experience he had).

[tref]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I'd guess you're about 70% correct, but I slowed the thing down and frame by frame I could not clearly and positively see the ball not contacting the net at any moment before it started coming back up.

At full speed not only is this not 100% clear, but it's also not 100% clear it hit Iguodala, depending on the angle the referee had (and frankly how much experience he had).

Once the ball passes entirely through the basket (net included) it should be a successful try. IMO, the ball clearly & positively passed through the net before going back through the basket from below.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Freddy

By rule, or by the fact that they played on?
(not trying to be difficult; just trying to understand)

BNR is correct...the ball did actually clear the net....and was actually a good basket.

But let's assume it didn't...in a NFHS/NCAA/NBA game, it would be basket interference for touching the ball while it was in the basket. The only way you could play on is if the ball didn't clear the net because it somehow got caught up/snagged in the net and popped back out.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

The only way you could play on is if the ball didn't clear the net because it somehow got caught up/snagged in the net and popped back out.

Which is obviously what they saw (right or wrong) in full speed without replaying it.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The ball went completely through and cleared the net and then bounced back through the ring. Should have been a made basket.

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

BNR is correct...the ball did actually clear the net....and was actually a good basket.

But let's assume it didn't...in a NFHS/NCAA/NBA game, it would be basket interference for touching the ball while it was in the basket. The only way you could play on is if the ball didn't clear the net because it somehow got caught up/snagged in the net and popped back out.

From the clips in the link (the repeating gifs), it appears it didn't "completely" clear the net as required thus it would be BI under NFHS and NCAA.

EDIT: I was able to view the gif frame-by-frame. Unless there is another video with a different angle, you can't tell that the ball was completely clear of the net before it hit him. It appears to me that it was probably still in contact with the net at least a little bit when it hit him and bounced back up.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

From the clips in the link (the repeating gifs), it appears it didn't "completely" clear the net as required thus it would be BI under NFHS and NCAA.

EDIT: I was able to view the gif frame-by-frame. Unless there is another video with a different angle, you can't tell that the ball was completely clear of the net before it hit him. It appears to me that it was probably still in contact with the net at least a little bit when it hit him and bounced back up.

Good point, NFHS and NCAA, you're stopping the game either way.

[APG]

I watched the game live and they had a replay angle that showed the ball clearing the net...albeit not by much. Very understandable as to why this was passed on in real time.

[comical]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Oh, they played on after this? Without a throwin after a made basket? Or without a BI violation called? Is that a FIFA thing?
In NFHS, either way a dead ball would result, right? Either...
A) ...the opponents are awarded a throwin after a made basket along the endline after a successful throw, which just happened to hit the shooter after passing through the basket (5-1-1),
or
B) ...the dunker commits basket interence having touched the ball while it is within the basket (4-6-1)
Am I on the right track here, Fed-wise?
And is FIFA different, whereby a "play on" is the result to this play?
Who is John Galt?

The teams did play on, which is the answer and seems obvious now that I see it in print. I should have realized that myself; I'm easily confused, as anyone who's worked at a game where I'm the scorer could tell you.

I think the strangeness of the play made me even more confused than usual. And reading some of the answers led me to delete a post I made earlier because I still wasn't sure how this would be handled. But there isn't anything to handle. Play would just continue.