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Old Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:26am
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I've seen an official work at Madison Square Garden the last couple of years one night and then the next night at the Prudential Center. After all that saves money on travel for these leagues that are always complaining that they are losing money suspiciously right before the players CBA expires. Amazing how that works.
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Old Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:30am
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You can disagree but there are too few officials on the roster to not work with another crew chief in the regular season, or some crew chiefs wouldn't get as many games scheduled. The top tier crew chiefs won't work with each other (Finals worthy, so a crew won't consist of Joe Crawford and Monty McCutchen in the regular season).

You will however see a veteran crew chief have another lesser experienced crew chief working the game (example of Dan Crawford and Rodney Mott).

Just two examples at random

02/01/12 Toronto at Boston: James Capers, David Jones and Courtney Kirkland

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02/01/12 Oklahoma City at Dallas: Ron Garretson, Michael Smith, Mark Ayotte

When an official is moved up to be a crew chief, they spend a good part of that year split between being a crew chief and serving under a strong, veteran crew chief.

And it isn't as common to have two crew chiefs on a crew during the regular season as a crew with only one crew chief. But it will happen and more times than can be considered rare. Again, top tier crew cheifs won't be on the same crews. And a new trend that seems to have emerged recently is when an official is set to retire, they go on a farewell type tour and do indeed work with each other. Happened to Joe Forte and this last year Dick Bavetta worked on crews in the regular season with officials he hasn't worked on a crew with for a while during regular season games. If you have followed Bavetta's crews the last couple seasons, he generally is the only crew chief on or had a lesser experienced crew chief working with him on the crew. Last year, he worked with virtually every official. Could also just be a huge coincidence.

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Old Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:42am
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Victor74,

Is it possible that this year is a bad example? After all officials had to work more like the players and there was not the same amount of games and a condensed schedule. Is it possible that CC worked together this year more than most considering the situations?

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Old Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:14am
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You can disagree but there are too few officials on the roster to not work with another crew chief in the regular season, or some crew chiefs wouldn't get as many games scheduled. The top tier crew chiefs won't work with each other (Finals worthy, so a crew won't consist of Joe Crawford and Monty McCutchen in the regular season).

You will however see a veteran crew chief have another lesser experienced crew chief working the game (example of Dan Crawford and Rodney Mott).

Just two examples at random

02/01/12 Toronto at Boston: James Capers, David Jones and Courtney Kirkland

Better example:

02/01/12 Oklahoma City at Dallas: Ron Garretson, Michael Smith, Mark Ayotte

When an official is moved up to be a crew chief, they spend a good part of that year split between being a crew chief and serving under a strong, veteran crew chief.
Which is why I specifically said regular CC's...as in officials that would be designated the CC in every regular season game they officiate. I can think of 10 or so officials that would fit that bill. Of course, as JRut alluded to, with the shorten season this year, it wouldn't surprise me if on one night, due to scheduling conflicts, two regular CC's worked together.
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Old Tue Jul 24, 2012, 01:33am
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The shortened season only meant less games worked. Unlike the players having to at times play three games in three nights, officials' schedules weren't altered in that manner.

And it is normal practice to have two crew chiefs work together on the same crew during the regular season (of course, only one is designated as such for that particular game). With the shortened season, the amount of crews with at least two crew chiefs on it was less than a normal season. If averaged out, it stayed pretty much on the same scheduling as other seasons.

Season 2010-2011, 258 instances occurred (highest amount was found with Scott Foster with 26 games working with another crew chief mostly betwen Michael Smith and Tony Brothers).

For this last season, a total of 217 instances occurred (highest was found with 21 for Bill Kennedy, split pretty evenly amongst Gary Zielinski and Rodney Mott).
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