You Make The Call (again)

[asdf]

Swatting at the ball while it's inside the cylinder in and of itself is not a violation. No contact, no violation.

That being said, once he swats at the ball, he's no longer grasping the rim for safety resons alone, a technical foul should be assessed. The location of the ball has no bearing.

Now, if he contacts the ball during this event, you may have BI depending on the location of the ball. No matter that outcome, you should have a technical foul as well.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by asdf

Swatting at the ball while it's inside the cylinder in and of itself is not a violation. No contact, no violation.

That being said, once he swats at the ball, he's no longer grasping the rim for safety resons alone, a technical foul should be assessed. The location of the ball has no bearing.

Now, if he contacts the ball during this event, you may have BI depending on the location of the ball. No matter that outcome, you should have a technical foul as well.

Safety reasons alone? (My books are packed away for the summer...) Please cite a rule or case play.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Safety reasons alone? (My books are packed away for the summer...) Please cite a rule or case play.

NFHS 10.3.3 Situation B is the closest we get...

A1 jumps for a try near the basket but loses his/her balance after releasing the ball. A1 grasps the basket to prevent injury. The ball: (a) is; or (b) is not, in the basket or on the ring while A1 is hanging on the ring.

RULING: In (a), it is basket interference by A1 which causes the ball to become dead and no goal can be scored. In (b), there is no violation unless A1 is still hanging on the ring when the ball touches the basket or goes into the basket. In both (a) and (b), A1's grasping is not penalized if it is judged there was a possibility of injury had he/she not grasped the basket. (Rule 9, Section 1)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Safety reasons alone? (My books are packed away for the summer...) Please cite a rule or case play.

Gaining an advantage violates 10-3-4, for which there is no player safety exception.

The exception applies to 10-3-3.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Safety reasons alone? (My books are packed away for the summer...) Please cite a rule or case play.

10-3-3 A player shall not:

Grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury;

As someone stated prior....The moment he swats at the ball, he's no longer grasping to prevent injury. If he wasn't grasping the rim, he would not be in a position to swat at the ball.

He's not allowed to grasp the rim and swat at the ball because of the advantage gained. (10-3-4) The fact that a player is underneath him doesn't permit him to use the now legal grasping to gain an advantage.


***** My apologies to Snaq... He got his response in as I was typing mine.****