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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:00am
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If the player catches dribble by putting hand under ball (i.e. carries) and then pushes ball out of hand to floor there is no violation unless player touches ball after release. Who is to say player wasn't going to pass ball??
So I have no call.
As jar mentioned earlier:

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Most of the time, a pass and the start of a dribble look nothing alike.
The rulebook definition of a dribble & when it begins doesnt support your ruling on this play either. 4-15 Art 1 & 3 in particular.


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My whistle was, perhaps, early, but I don't think it was incorrect.
That's what we all say! The CC as well as the easy out here should've a defensive foul for reaching
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:02am
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Seems to me this is a no-call. It's only a travel if the player takes too many steps while the ball is in the hand. It's only an illegal dribble when it comes back up into their hand - which it did not, directly.

The fact that B did not complete the steal of the ball is immaterial - I'd have no call in either case.
The touch by B doesn't give A a new dribble unless A lost control of the ball as part of it. A no call is not an option.
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2012, 06:54pm
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A second touch is not necessary to constitute a dribble. Read the definition:

......a player pushes the ball to the floor, once or several times......

See the play, judge the action, then make the call if necessary.
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