Illegal Screen or Not

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BLydic

It's just this off ball stuff that I'm wrestling with and wanting to be consistent.

If that play made you think "Oh my God!", then it needed a whistle from the Lead. If it just made you think "Hmmm. Better watch that guy", then it didn't need a whistle.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

If that play made you think "Oh my God!", then it needed a whistle from the Lead. If it just made you think "Hmmm. Better watch that guy", then it didn't need a whistle.

No, it wasn't even close to an "Oh my God" play and I wouldn't have a problem letting the screener know that he was a bit wide on that play at the next opportunity. I was just responding as if we needed to either make or not make the call based on the video. As with all video, we have no idea what the game or this player has been like prior to the call, which all factor into the overall situation.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

If that play made you think "Oh my God!", then it needed a whistle from the Lead. If it just made you think "Hmmm. Better watch that guy", then it didn't need a whistle.

It was explained to me this way long ago:

"oh sh**" = pass
"of f***" = whistle

[BillyMac]

Illegal screen. Would have liked to have seen the optional bird dog signal here, because it took me three viewings to catch the illegal screen on the weak side of the court. The player that used the screen did get to move across the lane to the strong side, and would have been momentarily open in the low post position to get an offensive rebound if the official had not sounded his whistle. I really wish that coaches would teach their kids how to set, and use, screens properly. It's so easy to teach. Set the screen and don't move. Use the screen by going shoulder to shoulder past the screener. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Illegal screen. Would have liked to have seen the optional bird dog signal here, because it took me three viewings to catch the illegal screen on the weak side of the court. The player that used the screen did get to move across the lane to the strong side, and would have been momentarily open in the low post position to get an offensive rebound if the official had not sounded his whistle. I really wish that coaches would teach their kids how to set, and use, screens properly. It's so easy to teach. Set the screen and don't move. Use the screen by going shoulder to shoulder past the screener. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

As long as officials say "illegal screen, but not enough contact to warrant a whistle", why would you expect coaches to teach it another way.

I saw two screens. 1) screener facing our view, opposite the ball, with the screener leaning to his left to insure contact

2) at end of video, screen on the shooter's defender, just enough to make the defender go around, giving the shooter an open shot instead of a contested shot.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

As long as officials say "illegal screen, but not enough contact to warrant a whistle", why would you expect coaches to teach it another way.

I saw two screens. 1) screener facing our view, opposite the ball, with the screener leaning to his left to insure contact

2) at end of video, screen on the shooter's defender, just enough to make the defender go around, giving the shooter an open shot instead of a contested shot.

A screen can be illegal by rule and not produce contact to warrant a foul. Defenders often try to just go around a screen and not run like normal. Coaches need to teach defenders to keep running or going to their spot instead of just avoiding a bad screen. Maybe then they would get a foul called.

Peace