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Old Thu May 24, 2012, 07:43am
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Interesting, because I hardly ever see a newer official call a PC foul at all. I think officials in general call too many things on the defense when they do not do anything wrong.

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I think the bigger problem is that they call it one way or the other but what they use as reasoning is not per the rules. I know I still miss block/charge calls but at least I know why I went with the call initially.
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Old Thu May 24, 2012, 01:35pm
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I think the bigger problem is that they call it one way or the other but what they use as reasoning is not per the rules. I know I still miss block/charge calls but at least I know why I went with the call initially.
That is a bigger issue than there are too many called. Now if you say that there are incorrect calls OK. But the number should not matter because it is possible that the number could be the teams and players understanding the rule and doing what it takes to get a call. What if for some reason that is the case and the numbers do not change? Is the rules committee going to complain or change the rule then?

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Old Thu May 24, 2012, 01:44pm
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That is a bigger issue than there are too many called. Now if you say that there are incorrect calls OK. But the number should not matter because it is possible that the number could be the teams and players understanding the rule and doing what it takes to get a call. What if for some reason that is the case and the numbers do not change? Is the rules committee going to complain or change the rule then?

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More times than not when I've heard complaints of about charges being called, the call was actually correct.

I think the biggest gripe, even if it is not the stated gripe, with the whole issue is that defenders are increasingly successful at playing for the charge rather than playing to stop the ball and possibly getting a charge. Such an approach....playing for the foul rather than playing the ball....is distasteful to some.

For a long time, many officials, who often incorrectly defaulted to a block unless the offensive player brought a battering ram to the party, were somewhat complicit in satisfying fans' desire to not see "cheap" fouls. Now that officials have started calling the charges that are, by rule, there, people are not happy.
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Old Thu May 24, 2012, 02:40pm
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More times than not when I've heard complaints of about charges being called, the call was actually correct.

I think the biggest gripe, even if it is not the stated gripe, with the whole issue is that defenders are increasingly successful at playing for the charge rather than playing to stop the ball and possibly getting a charge. Such an approach....playing for the foul rather than playing the ball....is distasteful to some.

For a long time, many officials, who often incorrectly defaulted to a block unless the offensive player brought a battering ram to the party, were somewhat complicit in satisfying fans' desire to not see "cheap" fouls. Now that officials have started calling the charges that are, by rule, there, people are not happy.
This is why I would like to hear from John Adams directly and not what the committee says alone. If Adams feels there are too many charges called, he will reflect that in is information given to the officials on the Arbiter site and at NCAA Meetings. Remember the committee is made up of coaches which is not often the most educated on what officials do or why they do things. Adams might agree that there are charges that were called incorrectly, but I doubt he will totally change the premise of why we call a block/charge in video examples.

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