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The problem with Mr. Hyland's interp is that it flies in the face of of 7-2-2 (When the ball is out of bounds because of touching or being touched by a player who is on or outside a boundary, such player shall have caused the ball to go out of bounds.) and 9-3-1 (A player shall not cause the ball to go out of bounds.). 9-15-1 tells us that the ensuing throw-in shall be at the spot nearest the violation for infractions 9-3 through 9-14: The ball shall become dead or remain dead when a violation occurs. The ball shall be awarded to a nearby opponent for a throw-in at a designated spot nearest to where the violation occurred. (Applies only to Rule 9, Sections 3 through 14)
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Violation on the player who touched the ball while being OOB. The correct throwin spot is the spot of the OOB violation. (NCAA-M interpretation says otherwise, but it doesn't correlate with what the rule actually says).
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Again, a situation I think deserves specific case plays. A2 catches OOB then we have a throw-in violation on Team A and ball goes back to original spot. B2 catches the ball OOB and we have a floor violation and the ball goes nearest the spot of the violation. Does B2's violation cause the throw-in to end?
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Down This Road Before ???
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The thrower only needs to throw the ball such that it touches a player who is inbounds OR out of bounds to legally complete the throwin. When A2 or B2 touches the ball, it is an OOB violation because A2/B2 caused the ball to be OOB. If the ball goes OOB before/without being touched by a player, it is a throwin violation. Of course, in spite of what the rule says, Art Hyland has pulled one out of thin air to say that it goes back to the original spot when a player touches the throwin while OOB. There really is no reason nor rules justification for that.
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Still, a throw-in caught OOB by B2, would the throw-in be considered ended for the purposes of the AP arrow?
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Then go with 9-3-2 and its penalty.
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Keep it simple. A player who touches the ball while OOB has committed an OOB violation and the throwin spot is the spot where they touched the ball. Why complicated it with which player touches it or whether it is from a throwin or not? Your idea doesn't really solve or improve anything? You'd also have to decide if A2 stepped OOB before or after touching the ball....and the splitting of that hair could make a big difference regarding the throwin spot. If you keep it at the spot of the touch, it is simple. If A2 and B2 are both going for the ball and one is OOB, you have to split another hair...who touched it first and the result could drastically different. As it is, you only care that the player OOB touched the ball...the order doesn't matter. And, yes, the throw in legally ended (unless the contact itself was illegal as in a kicked ball)....AP would switch.
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What makes this confusing is that we're comparing old NFHS interpretations, with new NFHS interpretations, with new NCAAM interpretations, with new NCAAW interpretations. I'm getting a headache. I need a couple of aspirin.
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