Mike Kitts... B1G Championship

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

my response to each of your comments are included above (if I was a real fanboy, I would know how to format this differently....)

Nah, fanboys and regular posters both have issues with formatting.

Maybe the issue is a combination of things, including perhaps your communication skills. Remember, what makes a great official over a good one is not just calling plays; most officials can do that. It's also being able to handle proper communication - both during a game and outside the game.

First, your description of the continuation play still does not determine Mike was wrong. It could be how you're describing the play. Or it could be your lack of rule knowledge. But, as you describe it, if the IL player had one foot on the floor at the time of the gather, the player traveled after the foul which would wipe of the shot attempt. So, it's either a communication issue or lack of rules knowledge on your part, whether or not we actually see the play.

On the Sullinger play, all you said was this was a play that was Mike obviously missed. But you didn't say where the play originated; you didn't mention whether Mike was the L, T or C; you didn't mention why the other officials definitely wouldn't have put a whistle on it if it was sooooo obvious and why it was Mike's fault alone. Communicating the specific play better might make it easier for us to discuss as officials, rather than simply crapping on him.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Or, some lower level officials like to simply crap on the higher level officials, because it makes them feel more important.

Your mention of your schedule, rather than adressing this comment, seems to almost prove my point. Again, is it how you're communicating?

Finally,

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

What I find funny is how much people infer/how quick people are to make a judgement

Doesn't your own comment speak for itself, especially regarding Mike?

[rockyroad]

Kitts STILL didn't make it to the baseline as the new lead - remember he was trail from calling the previous foul


Wouldn't that make him the C? Don't they call and go opposite the table in NCAA-M? Or was it the previous foul not a shooting foul but a sideline throw-in opposite the table?

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Kitts STILL didn't make it to the baseline as the new lead - remember he was trail from calling the previous foul


Wouldn't that make him the C? Don't they call and go opposite the table in NCAA-M? Or was it the previous foul not a shooting foul but a sideline throw-in opposite the table?

You are correct, they report & go opposite. He was lead opposite table; called foul & became me trail. On turnover, he went from old trail to new lead....

[tomegun]

All of the mistakes mentioned in this thread can happen to all of us...in a gym with 10 people watching. As was mentioned previously, to say that someone making more money should get plays right is absurd.

I would like to see some of these critics work.

[APG]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

First, your description of the continuation play still does not determine Mike was wrong. It could be how you're describing the play. Or it could be your lack of rule knowledge. But, as you describe it, if the IL player had one foot on the floor at the time of the gather, the player traveled after the foul which would wipe of the shot attempt. So, it's either a communication issue or lack of rules knowledge on your part, whether or not we actually see the play.

It would wipe out a made basket, but if they didn't award the shooter two free throws, then the official didn't think he was even in the act of shooting (which was twocentsworth's point). I can't comment on the play as I haven't seen it, and I can't find any replay of the game.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

First, your description of the continuation play still does not determine Mike was wrong. It could be how you're describing the play. Or it could be your lack of rule knowledge. But, as you describe it, if the IL player had one foot on the floor at the time of the gather, the player traveled after the foul which would wipe of the shot attempt. So, it's either a communication issue or lack of rules knowledge on your part, whether or not we actually see the play.

when does the act of shooting begin?

[VaTerp]

Didnt watch entire game but Kitts looked fine to me other than the miss on the oob call.

Unbelievable comeback by BYU.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Didnt watch entire game but Kitts looked fine to me other than the miss on the oob call.

Unbelievable comeback by BYU.

Same thing I thought.

[Raymond]

It was very amusing watching the contrast in styles of Mike Kitts and Sean Corbin. Corbin has to be the most unaffected, coolest official in the NCAA.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It was very amusing watching the contrast in styles of Mike Kitts and Sean Corbin. Corbin has to be the most unaffected, coolest official in the NCAA.

I agree. He was that way in the NBA, too. Does anyone here know why Sean left the NBA?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I agree. He was that way in the NBA, too. Does anyone here know why Sean left the NBA?

Heard from a pretty reliable source that he got a very nice early retirement package (as did Joe Derosa) and that he preferred the control he has over his own schedule at the NCAA level. Also that all he has to do now is work a game then move onto the next game instead of dealing with all the red tape and postgame accountability involved with being an NBA official.

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It was very amusing watching the contrast in styles of Mike Kitts and Sean Corbin. Corbin has to be the most unaffected, coolest official in the NCAA.

BNR - I like respect many of your opinions and I was wondering if you viewed Corbin's style as cool or apathetic as compared to Scott Foster (#48) in the NBA who looks like he OD on 5 hr energy drinks.....

Somtimes Corbin looks as though he is freakin bored and doesn't want to be there.....

BTW - also heard that Corbin wasn't happy with his post season assignments as he felt he wasn't moving up the ladder fast enough

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

BNR - I like respect many of your opinions and I was wondering if you viewed Corbin's style as cool or apathetic as compared to Scott Foster (#48) in the NBA who looks like he OD on 5 hr energy drinks.....

Somtimes Corbin looks as though he is freakin bored and doesn't want to be there.....

I'm sure he is not apathetic but I could see how it might be interpreted as such. I don't think I could get away with it, at least not on plays in which I'm involved. But I do like it when he is the off-official and he is just observing the court while his partners tend to business.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Somtimes Corbin looks as though he is freakin bored and doesn't want to be there.....

This provokes a question. (maybe a poll) How desirable is it to try to maintain a certain demeanor on the court? How much, if any, emotion is too much to show?

Early in the season, I was discussing this with a new official. I told him no matter what you do, somebody isn't going to like it. I gave 3 examples.

_________ smiles all the time. "He's laughing at us!"


__________ frowns all the time. "He's mad at us!"


I, personally, make it a point to try and remain expressionless. (this is not always possible) "He doesn't even care!"

Thoughts?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

BNR - I like respect many of your opinions and I was wondering if you viewed Corbin's style as cool or apathetic as compared to Scott Foster (#48) in the NBA who looks like he OD on 5 hr energy drinks.....

If you think Foster is on energy drinks, then I want to know what you think Hightower is on!