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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 03:21pm
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Mike Kitts... B1G Championship

First he T's up Izzo after missing a rebounding foul, then he blows his whistle thinking the shot clock buzzer was the horn at the end of the half.

Extremely poor awareness...not to mention he simply can't keep up with the speed of the game anymore--frankly, I'm surprised he earned today's assignment.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 03:27pm
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First he T's up Izzo after missing a rebounding foul, then he blows his whistle thinking the shot clock buzzer was the horn at the end of the half.

Extremely poor awareness...not to mention he simply can't keep up with the speed of the game anymore--frankly, I'm surprised he earned today's assignment.
Why would you blame the *lead* for "missing" a rebounding foul?
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 03:34pm
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Because it was right in front of him, in the paint. Is it possible he was screened by someone, sure... the larger gaffe is the shot clock/game clock lack of awareness, IMO.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 03:41pm
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Because it was right in front of him, in the paint. Is it possible he was screened by someone, sure... the larger gaffe is the shot clock/game clock lack of awareness, IMO.
There were also bodies in between him and the players getting tangled up. And the contact was fairly marginal.

What gets me in this game is Valentine's extremely late foul calls. He's literally waiting to see if the ball goes in and calling the foul 3-4 seconds after it occurs.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 03:42pm
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Because it was right in front of him, in the paint. Is it possible he was screened by someone, sure... the larger gaffe is the shot clock/game clock lack of awareness, IMO.
I would argue that it would be a bigger gaffe to miss a foul, as you say he did, than to have an IW when the two horns would have been less than a second apart.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 03:46pm
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Agree to disagree. I've never understood why officials even feel the need to whistle at the end of a period, unless there's a shot to wave off... if I'm making $2500+ to do a game, I'm going to know there's .9 difference between game and shot clock at the end of a half.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 03:50pm
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Agree to disagree. I've never understood why officials even feel the need to whistle at the end of a period, unless there's a shot to wave off... if I'm making $2500+ to do a game, I'm going to know there's .9 difference between game and shot clock at the end of a half.
I agree with this. The IW was a pretty big gaffe, IMO.
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:15pm
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What gets me in this game is Valentine's extremely late foul calls. He's literally waiting to see if the ball goes in and calling the foul 3-4 seconds after it occurs.
It's called a slow whistle.

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... if I'm making $2500+ to do a game, I'm going to know there's .9 difference between game and shot clock at the end of a half.
So if you were making $2500+ to do a game, you would never make a mistake?
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 03:49pm
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Wow...Mike Kitts is having a bad weekend!

I haven't seen much of his games @ the Big Ten tourney, but what I have seen is not good:

wrongly wiping off good layup by Illinois player
calling goal-tend as lead in transition (Ill v Iowa)
letting MSU post player literally sit on Sullengers back while tipping & then gathering a rebound. (MSU v OSU).
not calling obvious foul on OSU player...which lead to him whacking Izzo (when Izzo complained)
blowing whistle to end first half when time had not expired...it was only the shot clock horn (he's gotta know there will be 2 horns in that situation)

I hope, for his sake, it gets better! Hate to think what else he has screwed up if I actually watched ALL of his game....
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Calling goaltend as lead in transition.
I haven't seen the video, but around these parts, this can be, in a few circumstances, acceptable. Remember we're 99% two person here in Connecticut. Breakaway, transition situation, one official, lead, and a few players in the new frontcourt, new trail is deep in the backcourt, lead hasn't reached the endline yet, and is 100% sure. Blow the whistle, look to make sure your partner, the new trail, is still way back in the play, he doesn't have a whistle, and then count the basket. Usually pregamed.
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Old Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:10pm
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I haven't seen the video, but around these parts, this can be, in a few circumstances, acceptable. Remember we're 99% two person here in Connecticut. Breakaway, transition situation, one official, lead, and a few players in the new frontcourt, new trail is deep in the backcourt, lead hasn't reached the endline yet, and is 100% sure. Blow the whistle, look to make sure your partner, the new trail, is still way back in the play, he doesn't have a whistle, and then count the basket. Usually pregamed.
I agree with your thoughts....however these are, theoretically, the best officials in the league working in a 3-man crew @ the Big Ten tourney.
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 06:42am
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I agree with your thoughts....however these are, theoretically, the best officials in the league working in a 3-man crew @ the Big Ten tourney.
Assignment envy.....
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Old Mon Mar 12, 2012, 03:35pm
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Assignment envy.....
OF COURSE I'd like to work that game (as would many other officials in this forum) - who wouldn't?.....if you don't want to work that game then there is something wrong with you.

I wouldn't call it envy....that would denote a negative jealousy...which is not accurate. I'd call it "assignment aspiration".

Of course I realize that the groupthink mentality has me as a "fan boy" and won't change your mentality, so....lah me!
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calling goal-tend as lead in transition (Ill v Iowa)
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Are you saying the Lead should never call GT?
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Are you saying the Lead should never call GT?
He is saying that his opinion is worth 2 cents.
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