Mike Kitts... B1G Championship

[rockyroad]

Kitts STILL didn't make it to the baseline as the new lead - remember he was trail from calling the previous foul


Wouldn't that make him the C? Don't they call and go opposite the table in NCAA-M? Or was it the previous foul not a shooting foul but a sideline throw-in opposite the table?

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Kitts STILL didn't make it to the baseline as the new lead - remember he was trail from calling the previous foul


Wouldn't that make him the C? Don't they call and go opposite the table in NCAA-M? Or was it the previous foul not a shooting foul but a sideline throw-in opposite the table?

You are correct, they report & go opposite. He was lead opposite table; called foul & became me trail. On turnover, he went from old trail to new lead....

[tomegun]

All of the mistakes mentioned in this thread can happen to all of us...in a gym with 10 people watching. As was mentioned previously, to say that someone making more money should get plays right is absurd.

I would like to see some of these critics work.

[APG]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

First, your description of the continuation play still does not determine Mike was wrong. It could be how you're describing the play. Or it could be your lack of rule knowledge. But, as you describe it, if the IL player had one foot on the floor at the time of the gather, the player traveled after the foul which would wipe of the shot attempt. So, it's either a communication issue or lack of rules knowledge on your part, whether or not we actually see the play.

It would wipe out a made basket, but if they didn't award the shooter two free throws, then the official didn't think he was even in the act of shooting (which was twocentsworth's point). I can't comment on the play as I haven't seen it, and I can't find any replay of the game.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

First, your description of the continuation play still does not determine Mike was wrong. It could be how you're describing the play. Or it could be your lack of rule knowledge. But, as you describe it, if the IL player had one foot on the floor at the time of the gather, the player traveled after the foul which would wipe of the shot attempt. So, it's either a communication issue or lack of rules knowledge on your part, whether or not we actually see the play.

when does the act of shooting begin?

[VaTerp]

Didnt watch entire game but Kitts looked fine to me other than the miss on the oob call.

Unbelievable comeback by BYU.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Didnt watch entire game but Kitts looked fine to me other than the miss on the oob call.

Unbelievable comeback by BYU.

Same thing I thought.

[Raymond]

It was very amusing watching the contrast in styles of Mike Kitts and Sean Corbin. Corbin has to be the most unaffected, coolest official in the NCAA.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

when does the act of shooting begin?

NCAA 4-73-3.

But that's not the question. You said in your initial post that he wiped off a good layup. Upon further questioning, your backing is that the player took 2 steps between the foul and the layup. As you described, that's neither a good or bad call, without additional information. Someone who understands the rules would know to supply that information so that it's easier for the rest us to follow your reasoning.

The same with the Sullinger play - you have yet to respond to the specifics as to why it was only Mike's bad no-call, and why the rest of the crew was not responsible.

If you notice, I haven't given my opinion as to whether Mike had a bad night. But your descriptions of the plays tend to make me believe the opinions come from a less than knowledgeable source. Maybe it's just how you communicate?