NFHS closely guarded rule

[APG]

That official should be smacked for screwing up such a basic rule.

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That official should be smacked for screwing up such a basic rule.

Actually, he didn't get smacked. My player got smacked with a T for complaining that no one was even close to him. It was pretty comical because he was our point guard standing between the top of the key and half court re-setting the offense. This was an AAU game, using NFHS-rules, so I don't believe we had high school caliber refs.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That official should be smacked for screwing up such a basic rule.

Hey, we all learn sometime.

A few years ago, I had a five-second violation in a middle school boys' game. The coach was stunned, replying, "THAT was three feet?!"

I smiled, I informed, and he learned.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

You had to bring up that one, didn't you? Since I read the case book play as I searched for the rule citation in my other post I'll exclude myself from answering.

9.10.1 SITUATION D: Team A, while in possession of the ball in its frontcourt:
(a) positions four players parallel with the sideline and they pass the ball from one
to another with their arms reaching beyond the sideline plane; or (b) has four
teammates surround dribbler A1. In both (a) and (b), the opponents are unable
to get close to the ball. RULING: This is considered to be a closely-guarded
situation and a violation in five seconds in both (a) and (b), if any B player is
within 6 feet of the ball or within 6 feet of the screening teammates and is
attempting to gain control of the ball. Preventing opponents from getting to the
ball by using screening teammates becomes a violation in five seconds if the
opponents are attempting to gain control.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

You had to bring up that one, didn't you?

This was one of those controversial IAABO Refresher Exam questions a few years ago. Most of us said to continue the five second count. IAABO said no. Eventually IAABO told us that they had mixed up the NFHS interpretation with the NCAA interpretation.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Defensive player B1 is closely guarding, less than six feet, dribbler A1. A1 dribbles, shoulder to shoulder, past legal screener A2. B1 goes behind screener A2 and still maintains a distance of less than six feet from the dribbler A1. Defensive player B1 continues to closely guard, less than six feet, dribbler A1 on the other side of the screen.

In a NFHS high school game, does the official continue his closely guarded count throughout this play?

I say yes according to the case play but let me see your bet and raise you one. What if ball handler A1 is more than six feet from B1 but is screened by A2. B1 is still attempting to get through the screen but is less than 6 feet from A2. Does the count still continue.

Then add this. A1 gets head and shoulders past the screened defender on the way for a lay up because of the screen, but defender gets back in front before the lay up and 5 seconds has expired. What do you have then?

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

Regarding the closely guarded rule:

I know the defender has to remain within 6 feet to maintain the count, but I don't know the rule/case reference. Could someone please post it?

Rule 4-23-1.
"There is no minimum distance required between the guard and opponent, but the maximum is 6 feet when closely guarded."

Rule 9-10 proscribes the violation for holding or dribbling a ball "while closely guarded."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Rule 4-23-1.
"There is no minimum distance required between the guard and opponent, but the maximum is 6 feet when closely guarded."

Rule 9-10 proscribes the violation for holding or dribbling a ball "while closely guarded."

If this were Real Housewives of Atlanta you would be "Tardy to the Party".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If this were Real Housewives of Atlanta you would be "Tardy to the Party".

Turn in your man card at the front desk.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If this were Real Housewives of Atlanta you would be "Tardy to the Party".

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Turn in your man card at the front desk.

BayState back in the lead.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If this were Real Housewives of Atlanta you would be "Tardy to the Party".

My wife likes that show, too.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Welpe

My wife likes that show, too.

Which is viewed while you are out officiating. Right? RIGHT? RIGHT?!?!?!?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Welpe

My wife likes that show, too.

You need to control her television time better.

[umpref19]

Coach Bill. Please next time you see this official please point out the rule 4-10 to him. Also please report him to his board because to me officials like this who don't know a basic rule should not be on the court refereeing. An official like this makes up stuff and I can only imagine what else he makes up when he referee's a game.

[umpref19]

Section 13. Closely Guarded
Art. 1. (Men) A player in control in the front court only while holding or
dribbling the ball is closely guarded when his opponent is in a guarding
stance at a distance not exceeding 6 feet. This distance shall be measured
from the forward foot or feet of the defender to the forward foot or feet of
the opponent.
Art. 2. (Women) A player in control anywhere on the playing court while
holding (not dribbling) the ball is closely guarded when her opponent is in
a guarding stance at a distance not exceeding 3 feet. This distance shall be
measured from the forward foot or feet of the defender to the forward foot
or feet of the opponent.
Art. 3. After the start of a five-second closely guarded count, in order for
a closely guarded violation to occur, there shall be continuous guarding by
the same opponent.
Art. 4. When a player is positioned between the player in control of the ball
and his or her opponent, who is within 6 feet (men) or 3 feet (women), a
closely guarded situation does not exist.