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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 05:13pm
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Post Basket Counts ?

I realize that this is probably more of a 'test question' rather than a situation that is less likely to occur? Then again, as they say, anything can happen in our game and we have to be prepared.

Does the basket count?

1 second left in a quarter/half/game, and A1 jumps to release a 'try for goal'. After the ball leaves A1's hand, the horn now goes off. After the horn goes off the ball is 'deflected' (on its upward flight) by either A2 or B2 and the ball then goes into the basket.

I say the goal counts since neither the horn nor the 'deflection' causes the ball to become dead.

Rule references are appreciated.

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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 05:28pm
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I say the goal counts since neither the horn nor the 'deflection' causes the ball to become dead.

Rule references are appreciated.

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Not a BB ref ... but from reading here, I'm betting that off A2 the basket is no good, but off B2 it is.

My logic? If it goes off A2, who gets credit for the basket (assuming this happened in the middle of the quarter) -- A2. This "tip" or "redirect" makes it A2's shot. If it goes off B2, it's still A1's shot.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 06:08pm
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Not a BB ref ... but from reading here, I'm betting that off A2 the basket is no good, but off B2 it is.

My logic? If it goes off A2, who gets credit for the basket (assuming this happened in the middle of the quarter) -- A2. This "tip" or "redirect" makes it A2's shot. If it goes off B2, it's still A1's shot.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 09:00pm
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Just trying to understand why A2's 'deflection' is considered a 'try' so as to make the ball 'dead'?

Any rule references to this?
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 09:11pm
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Any rule references to this?
The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the
throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball
becomes dead.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 10:05pm
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The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the
throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball
becomes dead.
Certainly a rule reference, it just doesn't say what he's asking.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 11:10pm
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Just trying to understand why A2's 'deflection' is considered a 'try' so as to make the ball 'dead'?

Any rule references to this?
When A1's try touches A2's hand, it becomes a pass. The deflection by A2 is a tap, which came after the ball was dead.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 06:12pm
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Here's scenario #2

4.41.4 SITUATION A:

While the ball is in flight on a try for goal by A1: (a) B1 *touches the ball and then time expires; or (b) time expires and then B1 touches the ball. The ball continues in flight and enters Team A's basket.

RULING: The goal is scored in both (a) and (b), as B1's touching did not cause the try to end. However, in both (a) and (b), if B1's touching is either goaltending or basket interference, the ball becomes dead and two points will be awarded. (6-7-9 Exception a; 9-11, 9-12)
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