Basket Counts ?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bd41flpk

I say the goal counts since neither the horn nor the 'deflection' causes the ball to become dead.

Rule references are appreciated.

Thanks !

Not a BB ref ... but from reading here, I'm betting that off A2 the basket is no good, but off B2 it is.

My logic? If it goes off A2, who gets credit for the basket (assuming this happened in the middle of the quarter) -- A2. This "tip" or "redirect" makes it A2's shot. If it goes off B2, it's still A1's shot.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Not a BB ref ... but from reading here, I'm betting that off A2 the basket is no good, but off B2 it is.

My logic? If it goes off A2, who gets credit for the basket (assuming this happened in the middle of the quarter) -- A2. This "tip" or "redirect" makes it A2's shot. If it goes off B2, it's still A1's shot.

correct

[bd41flpk]

Originally Posted by just another ref

correct

Just trying to understand why A2's 'deflection' is considered a 'try' so as to make the ball 'dead'?

Any rule references to this?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bd41flpk

Any rule references to this?

The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the
throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball
becomes dead.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the
throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball
becomes dead.

Certainly a rule reference, it just doesn't say what he's asking.

[Adam]

Based on what rule?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Based on what rule?

Definition of pass: ball thrown, bounced, rolled, to another player.......


If not that, what is it? For once, I'm open to suggestion.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Based on what rule?

Interestingly, neither the NFHS nor the NCAA case book deals with this situation specifically. The closest they come is a try ending when it's apparent it won't be successful.

I think the only way it would happen is if A1 put up a try and while it was on its way up - and near the basket - A2 tried a tap dunk to make sure it goes in. That would seem to satisfy 4-41-1.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bd41flpk

Just trying to understand why A2's 'deflection' is considered a 'try' so as to make the ball 'dead'?

Any rule references to this?

When A1's try touches A2's hand, it becomes a pass. The deflection by A2 is a tap, which came after the ball was dead.