You make the call

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Wellmer

This happened in a sub district game the other night and I heard this second hand and have not found it yet in the rule book. Here goes :

A team starts the game with 7 players. One fouls out leaving them with 6. As the game goes along, one of the players on this team gets into it with the coach and the coach tells him to go to the locker room, he's done for the night. During the 4th quarter, another player fouls out leaving this team with only 4 players on the floor. They would still have 5 except the coach told the disruptive player on his team to hit the high road to the locker room. Here's the question, does the coach have to put that player back in or can he legally play with 4? That player wasn't actually disqualifed from the game, only told to leave by his coach. The kicker is, this team actually ended up holding on for the win to advance to the next round.

The referees let this team start with 7 players? Around here 5 players get to play at a time

Yes he can legally play with 4. As Snags said, the player should not have gone to the locker room alone, he needed to be accompanied by an adult.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Toren

The referees let this team start with 7 players? Around here 5 players get to play at a time

Yes he can legally play with 4. As Snags said, the player should not have gone to the locker room alone, he needed to be accompanied by an adult.

Which is why I'd respond the same whether the player in question is on the bench or in the locker room.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Which is why I'd respond the same whether the player in question is on the bench or in the locker room.

If we DQ or eject a player & they go to the lockrroom, they must be accompanied by an adult. Is that the same as if coach says its a wrap??
Coach did that not us.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

If we DQ or eject a player & they go to the lockrroom, they must be accompanied by an adult. Is that the same as if coach says its a wrap??
Coach did that not us.

My point is, if the coach says he's not eligible, I'm good with that. I'm not forcing him to send the kid off the bench.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by tref

If we DQ or eject a player & they go to the lockrroom, they must be accompanied by an adult. Is that the same as if coach says its a wrap??
Coach did that not us.

Had a local kid here quit the team during a game once. Left his uniform in the locker room at halftime and went home. No rule against that.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Toren

The referees let this team start with 7 players? Around here 5 players get to play at a time

Yes he can legally play with 4. As Snags said, the player should not have gone to the locker room alone, he needed to be accompanied by an adult.

Why can't they go alone and where is the rule?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Why can't they go alone and where is the rule?

Didn't the rule once stipulate that the player was ejected to the locker room? Wait? Am I allowed to take a nostalgic look back at old rules? All I've got are my memories. Please don't take them away from me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Why can't they go alone and where is the rule?

I believe this generally a state issue; but I'm not doing or saying anything that would encourage a coach to send his player to the locker room by himself.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Why can't they go alone and where is the rule?

10.5(b)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

10.5(b)

Which applies to flagrant DQs, but not coaching dismissals.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Which applies to flagrant DQs, but not coaching dismissals.

Just answering a question, I agree there is a difference between a player being DQ'd/ejected & the coach saying "hit the showers kid, youre done." The former is by rule & the latter is the coaches decision.

And if the player quits as jar said, then they are no longer a team member.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Which applies to flagrant DQs, but not coaching dismissals.

What's the rationale? Wouldn't it apply equally, though it might not be equally enforceable?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

What's the rationale? Wouldn't it apply equally, though it might not be equally enforceable?

My guess, because the situation where we tell a coach that the player must leave is by our choice.

As Billy noted, if the coach makes that choice, it's not my responsibility. I might, depending on how things are going and the rapport I have with the coach, suggest he send an adult to the LR.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

My guess, because the situation where we tell a coach that the player must leave is by our choice.

As Billy noted, if the coach makes that choice, it's not my responsibility. I might, depending on how things are going and the rapport I have with the coach, suggest he send an adult to the LR.

No the rationale for requiring the player to remain on the bench is that nobody wants an angry teen running around a locker room alone. And that applies equally no matter who puts the kid there.

That said, I agree with what you've said, but it concerns enforceability, not the rationale.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Why can't they go alone and where is the rule?

No rule in the book. State rule. I have been told for three years now that players cannot go to the locker room without adult supervision. I also heard it was because a player hanged himself after being ejected...I don't know if this is true or not.

Of course, this isn't an ejection, but I would get game management involved and have an adult accompany the player. That ain't happening on my watch.