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Wellmer Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:32am

You make the call
 
This happened in a sub district game the other night and I heard this second hand and have not found it yet in the rule book. Here goes :

A team starts the game with 7 players. One fouls out leaving them with 6. As the game goes along, one of the players on this team gets into it with the coach and the coach tells him to go to the locker room, he's done for the night. During the 4th quarter, another player fouls out leaving this team with only 4 players on the floor. They would still have 5 except the coach told the disruptive player on his team to hit the high road to the locker room. Here's the question, does the coach have to put that player back in or can he legally play with 4? That player wasn't actually disqualifed from the game, only told to leave by his coach. The kicker is, this team actually ended up holding on for the win to advance to the next round.

APG Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:34am

Play with 4

Adam Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:38am

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 826955)
Play with 4

Yep. Coach says he's ineligible, I'm not arguing.

Side note, I hope the coach didn't send the kid alone.

Duffman Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:42am

Dude this ones easy. I've watched Hoosiers over 700 times. His team was on the floor.

Rich Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:53am

Didn't we go round and round about this not too long ago?

Anyway, I was on the other side a while back, but I was convinced otherwise. The coach decides who's eligible. Easy enough.

(The only place I can see this being a problem is when a coach has a poor FT shooter on the bench who is the only sub and a player gets injured while being fouled and the coach uses the Hoosiers line. But that's an unlikely enough scenario where I'm not really concerned about it.)

JugglingReferee Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:01pm

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Originally Posted by Duffman (Post 826963)
Dude this ones easy. I've watched Hoosiers over 700 times. His team was on the floor.

Best sports movie ever: Hoosiers or Rudy?

Bad Zebra Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:02pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 826980)
Best sports movie ever: Hoosiers or Rudy?

Neither. Correct answer: Caddy Shack

Wellmer Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:05pm

Those 2 movies are neck and neck for me but being a basketball guy, gotta go with Hoosiers. Back to the issue, only thing I could say is if that player is a terrible free throw shooter and the coach has the gall to think he can win without him and that's the reason he sent him off, then that's another story. In this case though, the kid was just being a knucklehead. Not sure if someone went with him to the lockerroom or not?

Wellmer Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:08pm

One more question that might come up. Say the coach leaves him on the bench where he can keep an eye on him and player #6 just fouled out. You have four on the court plus the knucklehead on the bench. What as an official are you going to do when the coach says he's not going to put him in, continue with four? I have a feeling that's what went these officials minds going into the game on Tuesday night. Have not heard how things went yet.

Duffman Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:11pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 826980)
Best sports movie ever: Hoosiers or Rudy?

I'd rather watch a marathon of the "Bachelor" than watch Rudy once. Just one guys opinion.

Rich Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by Duffman (Post 826986)
I'd rather watch a marathon of the "Bachelor" than watch Rudy once. Just one guys opinion.

I never found Rudy a good movie, let alone a "best" of anything.

Welpe Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:13pm

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Originally Posted by Duffman (Post 826986)
I'd rather watch a marathon of the "Bachelor" than watch Rudy once. Just one guys opinion.

Make that two. I cannot stand that movie. I have to say I don't have a real high opinion of the man in real life either.

Rich Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:13pm

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Originally Posted by Wellmer (Post 826985)
One more question that might come up. Say the coach leaves him on the bench where he can keep an eye on him and player #6 just fouled out. You have four on the court plus the knucklehead on the bench. What as an official are you going to do when the coach says he's not going to put him in, continue with four? I have a feeling that's what went these officials minds going into the game on Tuesday night. Have not heard how things went yet.

Yes, I'd play with 4.

Toren Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:44pm

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Originally Posted by Wellmer (Post 826953)
This happened in a sub district game the other night and I heard this second hand and have not found it yet in the rule book. Here goes :

A team starts the game with 7 players. One fouls out leaving them with 6. As the game goes along, one of the players on this team gets into it with the coach and the coach tells him to go to the locker room, he's done for the night. During the 4th quarter, another player fouls out leaving this team with only 4 players on the floor. They would still have 5 except the coach told the disruptive player on his team to hit the high road to the locker room. Here's the question, does the coach have to put that player back in or can he legally play with 4? That player wasn't actually disqualifed from the game, only told to leave by his coach. The kicker is, this team actually ended up holding on for the win to advance to the next round.

The referees let this team start with 7 players? Around here 5 players get to play at a time :D

Yes he can legally play with 4. As Snags said, the player should not have gone to the locker room alone, he needed to be accompanied by an adult.

Adam Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:48pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 827014)
The referees let this team start with 7 players? Around here 5 players get to play at a time :D

Yes he can legally play with 4. As Snags said, the player should not have gone to the locker room alone, he needed to be accompanied by an adult.

Which is why I'd respond the same whether the player in question is on the bench or in the locker room.


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