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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 02:00pm
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Block or charge

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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 02:13pm
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Flop.
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 03:11pm
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Wow did the calling official send that up north?
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 03:47pm
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No call...offensive player tries to slip the defender and the contact is marginal at best
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 03:57pm
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Contact maybe marginal but two playrs going to the floor like this probably deserves a call, the defense was not great and the contact changed shot... I think I'd make it a block
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 04:01pm
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 04:03pm
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Contact maybe marginal but two playrs going to the floor like this probably deserves a call, the defense was not great and the contact changed shot... I think I'd make it a block
Plus how else do we deter defenders from flopping... Block, score it, 1 shot!
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 04:31pm
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Flop.
One might ask where is the word "flop" defined in the rule book? Contact is either illegal or marginal/incidental. Just because a player flops does not mean illegal contact can not occur.

Now the only other definition one could also use for flop is faking being fouled (NFHS) which is a technical, but Ive only seen it called once in my life and told to only use in the most extreme, Ray Charles obvious situation.

As for the play, I have lateral movement by the defender after the offensive player is airborne and a blocking foul. I think the lateral movement, by the defender, caused the offensive player to clip the defender with his foot.
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 05:57pm
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Plus how else do we deter defenders from flopping.
Try this: A player shall not: Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as: Faking being fouled.
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 06:46pm
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No Call. Marginal contact did not effect the play.

If the defender wants to be on the floor that is his buisness with his team in transition.
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 10:02pm
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NFHS, NCAA Men' and Women's, and FIBA: CHARGE!!


NBA/WNBA: Who the hell knows what the call would be.
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 10:23pm
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MTD, Sr. is correct....Charge. Defender established LGP prior to offensive player leaving the floor....

too many officials call blocking fouls when the offensive player is repsonsible for the contact after LGP has been established.
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 11:37pm
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I agree with MTD.
However, I do believe in this Video, It was a "Flop".
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Old Fri Jul 29, 2011, 11:56pm
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Contact maybe marginal but two playrs going to the floor like this probably deserves a call, the defense was not great and the contact changed shot... I think I'd make it a block
+1 without a doubt
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For those calling a PC foul please explain what contact A1 made to B1 to earn such a call.
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