Trail handles player control

[Chris Whitten]

Is it ever ok for the Trail official to call a player control foul in the paint when the play did NOT originate from his primary? Saw it this weekend with 3 veteran officials in HS play. Play originated just inside the free throw line and was an obvious charge about half way down the lane, but neither the L or C hit their whistle. Trail was about a tic late but came in and got it. Right call, but it just seemed odd.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

Is it ever ok for the Trail official to call a player control foul in the paint when the play did NOT originate from his primary? Saw it this weekend with 3 veteran officials in HS play. Play originated just inside the free throw line and was an obvious charge about half way down the lane, but neither the L or C hit their whistle. Trail was about a tic late but came in and got it. Right call, but it just seemed odd.

When there's an elephant in the room, someone must acknowledge it...

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

Is it ever ok for the Trail official to call a player control foul in the paint when the play did NOT originate from his primary? Saw it this weekend with 3 veteran officials in HS play. Play originated just inside the free throw line and was an obvious charge about half way down the lane, but neither the L or C hit their whistle. Trail was about a tic late but came in and got it. Right call, but it just seemed odd.

Attention to PCA does not preclude wider court awareness which could, at times, yield an obvious call that has to be made in another's primary. Now, if it happens time after time after time (like with the crew I just got done reviewing on video), you'd have to admit there's something wrong.
I have seen it on tape when both C and L are straightlined and T, with nothing in particular going on in his area, has the slot and, with wider court awareness, comes in and makes the necessary call. Often, in fact. Especially when L hasn't rotated yet and C doesn't either step down or step in on a drive and ends up looking square into the dribbler's back.
Sound right?

[SWMOzebra]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

Trail was about a tic late but came in and got it.

This delay was likely a wait to see if either the C or L put air in their whistle. He held knowing it wasn't his call.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

This delay was likely a wait to see if either the C or L put air in their whistle. He held knowing it wasn't his call.

Quite possible. Sometimes a drive coming out of C's primary will straightline both C and L, while T gets a great look at it. Nothing wrong with taking that, if nobody gets it first.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

Is it ever ok for the Trail official to call a player control foul in the paint when the play did NOT originate from his primary? Saw it this weekend with 3 veteran officials in HS play. Play originated just inside the free throw line and was an obvious charge about half way down the lane, but neither the L or C hit their whistle. Trail was about a tic late but came in and got it. Right call, but it just seemed odd.

Had almost this exact play this weekend. I was the Trail and just crossing the division line. Clear PC but both my partners failed to put a whistle on it. Talked about it after the game and really wish I had come in and made the call.

In fact I have the DVD in my player right now. Will check it out later to see how bad it looked.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

Is it ever ok for the Trail official to call a player control foul in the paint when the play did NOT originate from his primary? Saw it this weekend with 3 veteran officials in HS play. Play originated just inside the free throw line and was an obvious charge about half way down the lane, but neither the L or C hit their whistle. Trail was about a tic late but came in and got it. Right call, but it just seemed odd.

Yes and why not?

Peace

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

... Play originated just inside the free throw line and was an obvious charge about half way down the lane, but neither the L or C hit their whistle. Trail was about a tic late but came in and got it. Right call, but it just seemed odd.

this is called "excellent officiating by the Trail".....

Now that you've seen this situation, remember it - it WILL happen to you and you'll know exactly how to handle it!

[ga314ref]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

Is it ever ok for the Trail official to call a player control foul in the paint when the play did NOT originate from his primary? Saw it this weekend with 3 veteran officials in HS play. Play originated just inside the free throw line and was an obvious charge about half way down the lane, but neither the L or C hit their whistle. Trail was about a tic late but came in and got it. Right call, but it just seemed odd.

...if later on one of his partners pointedly lets him know he had it, but passed on it for some (likely inane) reason.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by ga314ref

...if later on one of his partners pointedly lets him know he had it, but passed on it for some (likely inane) reason.

I would tell my partner:

"Well I'm glad I made that call because we cannot pass on ANY "train wrecks" like that."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

I would tell my partner:

"Well I'm glad I made that call because we cannot pass on ANY "train wrecks" like that."

I can tell you that if I tell you I passed on it for a reason, then it wasn't the train wreck you thought it was, and this sort of high horse response will put us both in GIGDGO mode, and on the edge of my block list (which I've still not used.)