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Old Thu Feb 16, 2012, 08:35am
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If a fan called an official a racist loud enough that everyone in the gym heard, wouldn't that be an automatic ejection for the fan?
Unlike Mark, I will have a fan removed if I can identify them and am 100% certain who it was. But when it's coming from somewhere in the crowd (or an entire section of fans), there's not much that I can do. I'm not going to expend a lot of energy in trying to figure out who it was either but if it's obvious, I will have it dealt with.
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Old Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:11am
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Someome once told me, "If you're gonna listen when they say you're great, you have to listen when they say you suck."

This is a true story that proves your point.

About five years ago, my first game of the season was a boys' Jr. H.S. DH between School A and School B played at School A. After the 7th grade game (which School B lost), a parent from School B really ripped us (my partner and me) a new one, telling us how bad we were. Of course my partner and I had a good laugh in the dressing room.

Three days later, with a different partner, I had School B versus School C at School B. After the 7th grade game (which School B won), the same parent that ripped my partner and me three days earlier said that we were great officials and the officials they had a few days ago really sucked.

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Old Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:49pm
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This is a true story that proves your point.

About five years ago, my first game of the season was a boys' Jr. H.S. DH between School A and School B played at School A. After the 7th grade game (which School B lost), a parent from School B really ripped us (my partner and me) a new one, telling us how bad we were. Of course my partner and I had a good laugh in the dressing room.

Three days later, with a different partner, I had School B versus School C at School B. After the 7th grade game (which School B won), the same parent that ripped my partner and me three days earlier said that we were great officials and the officials they had a few days ago really sucked.

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You could have told him about the school 3 days ago that...well, maybe you did, in your mind.
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Old Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:28am
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Someome once told me, "If you're gonna listen when they say you're great, you have to listen when they say you suck."
Agreed.



Years ago when I first started officiating, I would have internally said "I know", but now I just say "thank you" (as a politeness element) and then promptly forget what they said, how they said it, and who they were.



I did have one lady-fan this year walk up to me after the game, while agitated, and said I should be ashamed. And that I need to "referee fair". She had a unique attitude typical of fans from her city. She and her parent-mates were the typical complainers during the game. My response to her was "to have a safe drive home". (It was snowy up here that week.) That drove her to be more agitated. I had to work hard to not laugh.
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Old Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:45am
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Just moments after one astute fan effusively complimented my crew, a dour, foul-mouthed fanatic invited me to step outside for a little 'physical education'. Gotta love it
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Old Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:52am
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It's nice to hear every once awhile that we do a good job. Heard that from a fan today after my game that I always do an excellent job when he sees me officiate.
While it's nice to hear (we are human, after all), it becomes less meaningful when we realize that the fans know absolutely nothing about officiating.

Depending on the level, in order for the fans to think I did a good job, I would need to call "over the back," "reach," "high dribble," "three seconds," and "something."
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Old Thu Feb 16, 2012, 11:23am
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While it's nice to hear (we are human, after all), it becomes less meaningful when we realize that the fans know absolutely nothing about officiating.

Depending on the level, in order for the fans to think I did a good job, I would need to call "over the back," "reach," "high dribble," "three seconds," and "something."
I realize that most fans are not knowledgeable about everything in our rulebook. Like you said, we are human and it's nice to hear a job well whether they know what their talking about. Don't take much stock into it. Only care about what my peers think.
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Old Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:47pm
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I realize that most fans are not knowledgeable about everything in our rulebook. Like you said, we are human and it's nice to hear a job well whether they know what their talking about. Don't take much stock into it. Only care about what my peers think.
Knowing the rules isn't sufficient qualification to critique my game.
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