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[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

"If you're gonna listen when they say you're great, you have to listen when they say you suck."

Doesn't that depend greatly upon the motivation of the source?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Doesn't that depend greatly upon the motivation of the source?

Hey bainsey: You suck.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Hey bainsey: You suck.

Get in line, pal.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Get in line, pal.

Are you motivated now?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Doesn't that depend greatly upon the motivation of the source?

Not really.

[Raymond]

There has only been one time where I took a post-game compliment from a coach to heart. Had a game during a holiday showcase game I was working with my 2 main mentors. It was low scoring game that was won on a last second 3-pointer. After the game the losing coach (from a school outside of our jurisdiction) came to locker with our assignor and told us that is was the best game he had ever had officiated. He said he didn't even notice we were on the court. Just felt genuine.

But other than that, I've always just taken the "good job" comments as coaches and fans just being courteous and appreciating the fact that we are out there providing a service. Just like I take the negative comments during the game as stuff that happens in heat of the contest. I don't take any of it to heart.

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

But other than that, I've always just taken the "good job" comments as coaches and fans just being courteous and appreciating the fact that we are out there providing a service. Just like I take the negative comments during the game as stuff that happens in heat of the contest. I don't take any of it to heart.

I feel the same way for the most part. However, I don't feel that I've ever done what I would call a "good job." I always miss something and strive to ref the perfect game, as impossible as that is. I was at a Christian Mens' breakfast last week and some guy had brought his 17 year old son. The kid looks over at me and says I know you, you're the guy that refs, you're the most honest ref I've ever seen. I said thanks, (first time that's ever been said to me), it struck me later that he was kind of insinuating that the other guys on the court aren't honest, which is absolutely untrue as I know all of them personally. A couple days later I'm working a 10 year old kiddie game and see the same kid with a girl, his sister. The previous game I did with her last week, I cancelled the basket she made from the free throw line because she stepped on the line. (When I called that basket off, she turned to me and said, "but that's the first basket I've ever made!" I just sheepishly raised my arms and headed down the court. Guess that's being honest?? The only comments that I put any stock in is the ones I get from fellow refs: they are really the only ones qualified to judge my performance.

[letemplay]

I appreciate your drive to have the perfect game, but there will never be one until...there is a perfectly PLAYED game. We get what is played in front of us most times. Had a fan say "you guys called a crappy game" Response: "Funny, that's the way we saw it too!" and it was a crappy game to call, for sure

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by letemplay

I appreciate your drive to have the perfect game, but there will never be one until...there is a perfectly PLAYED game. We get what is played in front of us most times. Had a fan say "you guys called a crappy game" Response: "Funny, that's the way we saw it too!" and it was a crappy game to call, for sure

Good Point,
Don't we all love the games that have 2 or 3 kids that can shoot 3 pointers and most of the rebounding shove, foul, contact mumbo jumbo is absent due to outside scoring! Well played games are fun to officiate, crappy played games are like a job!

[just another ref]

The fact is most fans, and quite a few coaches, are not even qualified to comment on the quality of the officiating. Comments, whether good or bad, should be treated as displays of manners, or the lack thereof.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by letemplay

I appreciate your drive to have the perfect game, but there will never be one until...there is a perfectly PLAYED game. We get what is played in front of us most times. Had a fan say "you guys called a crappy game" Response: "Funny, that's the way we saw it too!" and it was a crappy game to call, for sure

1. An official can absolutely have a perfect game regardless of perfection from the players.
2. Even though the odds are heavily stacked against us, the goal should always be a perfectly called game. That will include some calls and non-calls. Do you think basketball teams set out to miss shots?
3. Would you really respond like that? Smart comebacks are something I wouldn't recommend any official use. If you are just thinking it...waste of time. IMO

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not really.

Okay. Why not?

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Doesn't that depend greatly upon the motivation of the source?

Why would anyone care what a someone thinks, good or bad?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Doesn't that depend greatly upon the motivation of the source?

It has with the source, period.

A coach wins a 1 point game, runs into you in the hallway after the game, and says, "You guys did a great job tonight."

Six weeks later, he loses a 1 point game, runs into you in the hallway after the game and says, "You guys cheated us tonight."

Now, if you're gonna bust your arm, patting yourself on the back after he makes the first comment, then you have to take his second comment to heart as well. Or did that highly perceptive coach from game 1 suddenly become a dumba$$ after game 2?

The point is, fans are always gonna be fans, coaches are always gonna be coaches, players are...you get it. They're your best friend when they win and your worst enemy when they lose. They don't care about you, only what you can do for them. You can't get a big head because a coach said you did a good job anymore than you should beat yourself up when he says you suck. Let it all go in one ear and out the other, because none of it means anything.

[BballRookie]

If a fan called an official a racist loud enough that everyone in the gym heard, wouldn't that be an automatic ejection for the fan?