arrow change

[onetime1]

Ball OOB on the arrow. Offense violates with an illegal screen. Does the arrow switch?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by onetime1

Ball OOB on the arrow. Offense violates with an illegal screen. Does the arrow switch?

Your question makes no sense. An illegal screen is a foul not a violation. One of those two items causes the arrow to change, the other doesn't. The arrow changes when the throw0in ends. See 4-throw-in to find the rest of your answer.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Your question makes no sense. An illegal screen is a foul not a violation. One of those two items causes the arrow to change, the other doesn't. The arrow changes when the throw0in ends. See 4-throw-in to find the rest of your answer.

6-4-5 is actually a direct answer to this question

[refiator]

The question is hazy, but it sounds as if you had a foul on an AP throw in. This has no affect on the arrow direction.

[Johnny Ringo]

These are very confusing plays to younger officials.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

These are very confusing plays to younger officials.

Agreed. And, imo, a minute or two in the rules book (with the guidance provided) will clarify the answer and cement it in the youngsters' brains more than just giving the answer here.

[Rich]

My idea of hell is standing in front of a defensive coach while a girl dances around trying to set a screen, missing badly, while the coach yells "moving screen, moving screen" in my ear. A deeper layer of hell has the coach throwing in "3 seconds" every third time or so.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

My idea of hell is standing in front of a defensive coach while a girl dances around trying to set a screen, missing badly, while the coach yells "moving screen, moving screen" in my ear. A deeper layer of hell has the coach throwing in "3 seconds" every third time or so.

Padgett will enjoy this one: I had a girls' 12U game this morning and the winning team had two girls that were about 5'09". Their team had one offensive possession where a guard for the team missed a FGA and these two girls proceeded to play volleyball putting up at least 6 shoots between the two of them before one of them scored a layup, all the while a father from the other team is counting allowed and screaming how long am I going to let them stay in the lane, .

MTD, Sr.

[Johnny Ringo]

Taking it a step further... B1 is called for a kicking violation on A1's pass to A2.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Taking it a step further... B1 is called for a kicking violation on A1's pass to A2.

Is that a question?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Is that a question?

In Jeopardy, and on the Forum, your answers must be in the form of a question.

[onetime1]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Taking it a step further... B1 is called for a kicking violation on A1's pass to A2.

So what happens then?

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by onetime1

So what happens then?

The violation by B on the throw-in means that A gets the ball again but this time it is not an AP throw-in and A will keep the arrow as the AP throw-in did not end.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

The violation by B on the throw-in means that A gets the ball again but this time it is not an AP throw-in and A will keep the arrow as the AP throw-in did not end.

I think you are wrong about the throw in not being ended. Rule: 4-42-5


ART. 5

The throw-in ends when:

a. The passed ball touches or is legally touched by another player inbounds.
b. The passed ball touches or is touched by another player out of bounds, except as in 7-5-7.
c. The throw-in team commits a throw-in violation.
The arrow should switch but A gets the ball back for a kicking violation.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I think you are wrong about the throw in not being ended. Rule: 4-42-5


ART. 5

The throw-in ends when:

a. The passed ball touches or is legally touched by another player inbounds.
b. The passed ball touches or is touched by another player out of bounds, except as in 7-5-7.
c. The throw-in team commits a throw-in violation.
The arrow should switch but A gets the ball back for a kicking violation.

That is why the AP Throw-in has not ended. The ensuing throw-in is for the violatioin by the Team B player and the next time there is a Jump Ball Situation, Team A will receive the ball for a Throw-in via the AP Arrow.

MTD, Sr.