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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 12:36am
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Ball OOB on the arrow. Offense violates with an illegal screen. Does the arrow switch?
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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 12:39am
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Ball OOB on the arrow. Offense violates with an illegal screen. Does the arrow switch?
Your question makes no sense. An illegal screen is a foul not a violation. One of those two items causes the arrow to change, the other doesn't. The arrow changes when the throw0in ends. See 4-throw-in to find the rest of your answer.
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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 12:42am
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The question is hazy, but it sounds as if you had a foul on an AP throw in. This has no affect on the arrow direction.
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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 11:12am
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These are very confusing plays to younger officials.
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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 11:20am
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These are very confusing plays to younger officials.
Agreed. And, imo, a minute or two in the rules book (with the guidance provided) will clarify the answer and cement it in the youngsters' brains more than just giving the answer here.
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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 11:23am
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My idea of hell is standing in front of a defensive coach while a girl dances around trying to set a screen, missing badly, while the coach yells "moving screen, moving screen" in my ear. A deeper layer of hell has the coach throwing in "3 seconds" every third time or so.
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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 12:22pm
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Taking it a step further... B1 is called for a kicking violation on A1's pass to A2.
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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 01:33pm
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Taking it a step further... B1 is called for a kicking violation on A1's pass to A2.
Is that a question?
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Is that a question?
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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 08:53pm
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My idea of hell is standing in front of a defensive coach while a girl dances around trying to set a screen, missing badly, while the coach yells "moving screen, moving screen" in my ear. A deeper layer of hell has the coach throwing in "3 seconds" every third time or so.

Padgett will enjoy this one: I had a girls' 12U game this morning and the winning team had two girls that were about 5'09". Their team had one offensive possession where a guard for the team missed a FGA and these two girls proceeded to play volleyball putting up at least 6 shoots between the two of them before one of them scored a layup, all the while a father from the other team is counting allowed and screaming how long am I going to let them stay in the lane, .

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Padgett will enjoy this one: I had a girls' 12U game this morning and the winning team had two girls that were about 5'09". Their team had one offensive possession where a guard for the team missed a FGA and these two girls proceeded to play volleyball putting up at least 6 shoots between the two of them before one of them scored a layup, all the while a father from the other team is counting allowed and screaming how long am I going to let them stay in the lane, .

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So you told him it was not allowed?

Too easy.
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So you told him it was not allowed?

Too easy.
The father from the other team was a spectator in the stands. I was delighted that he was able to count to ten without using his fingers.

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Sometimes this bugs me, usually when the one knucklehead can be heard over everyone else. Sometimes, I feel like invoking the idiot Dad rule, but never so much as nod at the guy. I will, however, occasionally laugh out loud.
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Taking it a step further... B1 is called for a kicking violation on A1's pass to A2.
So what happens then?
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Old Sat Feb 11, 2012, 11:01pm
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So what happens then?

The violation by B on the throw-in means that A gets the ball again but this time it is not an AP throw-in and A will keep the arrow as the AP throw-in did not end.
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