Get a suitcase when you travel

[The_Rookie]

My second HS season comes to an end Friday and one area that I still have a hard time calling is TRAVELING...

Know what book states..but how do you recognize it? what should I be looking for?

Also, more emphasis on traveling in lane versus away from basket?

Thanks for some pointers!

[stiffler3492]

It's all about picking up the pivot foot. Determine that, and that's half the battle. A lot of plays will look awkward, but as long as you don't lose the pivot foot, you'll be able to accurately determine whether or not a play is legal.

And, as the game slows down, it'll be easier. You might be able to anticipate some moves that might happen, and when they do, you'll be ready for them.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

It's all about picking up the pivot foot.

No it's not. It's about picking up the pivot foot and putting it back down.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Smitty

No it's not. It's about picking up the pivot foot and putting it back down.

I know that. Let me rephrase. It's all about identifying the pivot foot.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I know that. Let me rephrase. It's all about identifying the pivot foot.

So if you knew that why did you give a newbie asking a question the wrong information? That will only add to his confusion. You should go back and edit your post for any other newbies who might read it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Smitty

So if you knew that why did you give a newbie asking a question the wrong information? That will only add to his confusion. You should go back and edit your post for any other newbies who might read it.

He meant "pick up" in the same sense as "identify", not in the sense of "raise".

Lah me.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Smitty

So if you knew that why did you give a newbie asking a question the wrong information? That will only add to his confusion. You should go back and edit your post for any other newbies who might read it.

you know what, you're right. bad choice of words there. Get over it.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Smitty

No it's not. It's about picking up the pivot foot and putting it back down.

Actually, this comment is not correct either. If the pivot foot is lifted before the ball is released for a dribble, whether or not it's put back down has no bearing on the violation.

I know you know that, but it just seemed like you were quick to point out a fault, without asking what stiffler really meant. And, what stiffler said is actually how I've heard it phrased at many camps. Another good tip I've heard at camp is to pick up the defender a little quicker on a drive so it makes the block/charge call a little easier to call. I sure hope that doesn't mean I have to put both arms around the defender and pick them up off the floor?

I think Bob was simply pointing out you seem to be the one that needs to lighten up a little. You could've simply asked stiffler what they meant, instead of assuming they were phrasing it incorrectly.

[Smitty]

This is the last I'll say about this, so if you want to keep harping on it, feel free. I only read his response one way. It didn't dawn on me that there was another way to take it. I only realized after Bob mentioned the other interpretation of it that I misread what he intended to say. I would have been fine with that (but I still think it's a poor choice of words given the way I interpreted it, which was valid), except for the pissy "Lah me" BS tossed in at the end. As if I'm some sort of moron for reading it the way I did. The "asking what he meant" goes both ways. Jurrasic could get away with that crap but a moderator of the forum should hold himself to a higher standard.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Smitty

This is the last I'll say about this, so if you want to keep harping on it, feel free. I only read his response one way. It didn't dawn on me that there was another way to take it. I only realized after Bob mentioned the other interpretation of it that I misread what he intended to say. I would have been fine with that (but I still think it's a poor choice of words given the way I interpreted it, which was valid), except for the pissy "Lah me" BS tossed in at the end. As if I'm some sort of moron for reading it the way I did. The "asking what he meant" goes both ways. Jurrasic could get away with that crap but a moderator of the forum should hold himself to a higher standard.

Hahahahahaha!!

I love this stuff...Smitty gets pissy with stiffler, then gets all upset when Bob gets pissy with him!

That's awesome!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Smitty

except for the pissy "Lah me" BS

That's your interpretation.

[biggravy]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

It's all about picking up the pivot foot (and putting it back down). Determine that, and that's half the battle. A lot of plays will look awkward, but as long as you don't lose the pivot foot, you'll be able to accurately determine whether or not a play is legal.

And, as the game slows down, it'll be easier. You might be able to anticipate some moves that might happen, and when they do, you'll be ready for them.

Good advice. Also, don't let crowd/coach/player reactions affect your confidence. Almost every game you will have a sitch where someone, usually lots of someones, are hollering 'TRAVEL' and since you are astutely watching the pivot you KNOW it was ugly, but not a travel.

Personally, I would recommend watching as much game tape or TV games as you can. Watch the take off on the drive. When the big boy picks it up in the paint, watch his feet. Get used to what you are looking for. There was a vid posted a while back of a guard that took about 6 steps, slowly, without a call. It really hit home for me as one thing I have been working on is the "slow" travel. I've gotten pretty good at getting the "quick" travel on a take off. I do good with the jump stop and the post play. What I have missed is the "slow" travel. A1 shuffles his feet 30 feet from the basket under no pressure. It's a situation where I'm not expecting a travel and honestly think I have missed a couple this year.

FWIW, I read "picking up the pivot foot" rhetorically as in picking up = finding. Parenthetical remark was added for clarity.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

More emphasis on traveling in lane versus away from basket?

My daughter's AAU team played in a tournament in Spain several years ago. The reverse of this (above) was definitely the case there. But I've never encountered this double standard here in the good ole USA.

[fullor30]

If it looks like a duck...........

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Know what book states..but how do you recognize it? what should I be looking for?

Practical Steps You Can Take to Improve:

1) Identify the pivot foot once the ball is caught by the offensive player. (this takes some practice....so try doing it in the games you have left OR during ALL games you watch on TV).

2) Count the steps AFTER the offensive player ends his dribble....2 or less is OK...3 or more and you've got a travel. (this takes some practice....so try doing it in the games you have left OR during ALL games you watch on TV).